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September 12, 2010
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Hi Everyone,
I bought my .45 1911 CBOB pistol today and noticed it had slightly extended magazines versus the flat bottomed magazine I saw with the display model. My purchase included a pair of 8 round magazines vs the older 7 round type.
The gun dealer said the DW magazines were ok, but he suggested that I use some superior Wilson Combat versions.
Has anyone already tried using Wilson magazines in their DW CBOB? If so, which version did you get? According to Midway's website, Wilson Combat (sale price $28) or Wilson Combat Elite Tactical (price $34)? Any suggestions?
I may change the grips to preserve the originals and replace them with another set. I know this may come down to personal preference, but what have you done to your grips?
From what I read on this forum, only 200 2010 CA CBOBS were produced. Do you think these guns have the ability to keep a high resale value considering their limited supply?
Thanks!
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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I normally use Chip McCormick mags in 1911, the standard Wilsons should be fine. On the other hand, only $6 more to get to get the very best version from a top quality manufacturer is probably money well spent.
Since your CBOB is CA compliant, I'd say it should be inherently more valuable than a run of the mill CBOB, which is already pretty valuable.
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Dans Club
February 28, 2009
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When you go looking for new grips, be sure to go to Esmeralda's site. you can pick the actual grip from the many, many she lists.
Most of the guys I know with auto-loaders choose Chip McCormick mags. However, the stock DW mags are perfectly serviceable.
IMHO, an extended mag on a CBOB kind of defeats the purpose. It's supposed to be a smaller gun for concealed carry, so having an extended magazine just seems wrong to me.
JMO
-Mike
September 12, 2010
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Thanks for your replies. I will look into your suggestions for both the magazine and pistol grips. I have a gun show in the area that I'll try to attend. Hopefully the visit will allow me to make a final decision on grip type. Esmerelda makes some real nice pieces..thanks again for the tips
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November 17, 2008
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If by extended you mean the plastic bumper on the base of the mag, that is just to help prevent damage when dropped on the floor during a combat reload. In a fight (I hope none of us ever have) you won't care. Other than the plastic bumper my DW 8 round mags are flush with the bottom of the gun. I have used the DW mags as well as Chip McCormick mags and see no real functional difference.
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September 12, 2010
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Yes, you are correct. My Dan Wesson comes with the combat style plastic bottomed magazines. They are not "extended" like a 10rd clip, but I do believe these clips have an 8 rd capacity vs. the 7rd I saw included with the display model. I do not know if the DW clips allow for the removal of the plastic ends for a more flush fit.
Which Chip McCormick magazines do you have? Power, Power+?
Thanks for your reply!
December 28, 2010
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Not a DW, but I've used Wilson Combat mags in my RIA 1911 and WC springs & followers in my Ruger KP90 mags. My guess would be a DW would feed more reliably than either with HP or SWC.
The WC mags & spring/followers have been pretty much 100% in both weapons. IMO it's good stuff & I don't mind spending a little more.
A 7 rd mag will give you a more powerful spring and will avoid last round jams. Unlikely a DW would have those issues but generally with a 1911 any feeding issues are mag related.
November 28, 2010
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The Classic Bobtail (CBOB) and VBOB (Valor Bobtail Commander) are designed for concealed carry. As such, I feel an extended mag kind of defeats that purpose. But that's just my take on the matter.
I have 2 CBOBS (2004 Patriot and 2008) and one VBOB 2010. To be frank with you I like the brushed stainless look of the CBOBS alot more than the bead blasted blah look of the VBOB (although the 2010 model also comes in Duty Coat Black). That said, the trigger control group and all the VBOB parts are of a higher quality (Forged) than those my older CBOBs.
However, does this (forged internals, frame, etc) mean much in a carry gun which is not going to get much use at all after break-in? I think not. And to be frank with you, the CBOB is a large and heavy carry pistol which requires a certain amount of coat or bulk to keep it concealed when carried.
As to its possibility to be worth much more in the future? I suspect not. Mass produced 1911's, even in small numbers or runs, tend to depreciate 20% or more as soon as you walk out of the dealers door and have very little if any chance of appreciating. They are best purchased mildly used and at a "Well Bought" price, IMHO.
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