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August 28, 2009
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Ok Gents. - this should put to rest any looming questions regarding whether or not there were any Mitchell guns manufactured by DW other than the Titan. There have been several threads in the past addressing this question and specifically 1911's.
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/general-messages/mitchell-arms/
Here we have it - a NIB, original and authentic Mitchell's Mausers Gold Series - alias DW PMA-S manufactured during the R. Serva regime. As Scorpio indicated in the previous thread, not to be confused with the Gold Series 95 which was marginal in workmanship at best. And it's a real gem - feast your eyes here >(if the photo's are too big or out of line let me know and I'll resize them). Yep, that's factory grease on it straight out of the plastic bag.
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December 4, 2011
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Thanks Harly, I feel vindicated. This confirms what I thought two years ago. I only wish I'd bought the one I was looking at at the time. Very nice gun Harly!
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April 18, 2014
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sure kinda look like sisters to the DW, don'
t it.
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February 22, 2009
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Very nice! The '03 Series can still be had in 45, 40S&W, or 9mm from Mitchell's
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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December 4, 2011
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No wonder they still have them left at the prices they are asking!
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January 24, 2009
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That is a cool find, thanks for showing it off!
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February 28, 2009
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Someone please explain what makes this a DW. I didn't know DW was located in Mountain View, CA. That's a long way from Norwich, NY.
I'm confused. Looks like anybody's 1911 clone to me. Does it say DW on it anywhere?
I know the Mitchell revolvers were essentially DW's and easily visually identifiable as such, and they were made in MA, but I'm reasonably certain that they went out of business years ago.
Looking forward to an explanation of the relationship here.
Thanks.
-Mike
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March 25, 2013
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I think the High Standard/Dan Wesson relationship goes way back. I think Karl Lewis work for High Standard at one time and of course they did rebrand model 14 + 15's as the MK ii + iii. Bob Serva tried many ways to keep sales up and I suspect that is how Mitchell ( who used to run High Standard) ended up selling DW 1911's as the Gold Series. They also sold a version of the 357 called the Titan but I don't know if that was made by Dan Wesson. I would suspect the Gold Cup is from long held inventory at that price. I do not warrant any of this information.
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March 2, 2008
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Karl Lewis worked for Browning, Colt, and Dan Wesson. I was also interested to discover that when Karl initially started working with Dan Wesson, he was working from Wethersfield, CT, just a few miles from where I live. Makes sense if he had worked at Colt prior to his association with Dan Wesson.
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March 27, 2009
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Here we go! The Titans are marked with Mitchell markings and a California address (made by Dan Wesson and only offered in 1995). This one shown has a High Standard grip medallion which I find interesting! I have seen some Mitchell 1911s at shows now I will be looking closer!
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Someone please explain what makes this a DW. I didn't know DW was located in Mountain View, CA. That's a long way from Norwich, NY.I'm confused. Looks like anybody's 1911 clone to me. Does it say DW on it anywhere?
I know the Mitchell revolvers were essentially DW's and easily visually identifiable as such, and they were made in MA, but I'm reasonably certain that they went out of business years ago.
Looking forward to an explanation of the relationship here.
Thanks.
-Mike
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1) Do some research.
Guide to Requesting Marking Variances
Licensed manufacturers and licensed importers are required to mark firearms manufactured or imported with specific identifying information. This information is found under Title 18 United States Code (U.S.C.) Section 923(i) and 27 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Section 478.92. However, the Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of the law.
Purpose and Background
Generally, each manufacturer of firearms is required by law to place identifying markings on the frame or receiver of every firearm that they manufacture. Marking variances are necessary when a federally licensed manufacturer of firearms contracts with another licensed manufacturer to manufacture firearms frames or receivers on their behalf. In these instances, the contracted manufacturer places on the frames or receivers the required identifying markings for the manufacturer of record per 27 CFR Section 478.92.
In this publication, ATF is providing the firearms manufacturers with guidance on the requirements for submitting requests for marking variances..............
2) Pay attention.
3) And finally, know which sources of information you can trust.
rwsem said
Very nice! The '03 Series can still be had in 45, 40S&W, or 9mm from Mitchell's
This is an old page.....these haven't been available for quite a few years.
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March 28, 2023
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Well after finding all this info I messaged Bob Serva today. He replied that yes they made the gold series for Mitchell Mauser! It's really a Pointman. As I was looking at all this info I saw one for sale on Guns.com and it had a "make offer" I got it for $1050 It was accepted so i'm now the owner of a Mitchell Mauser 1911 Dan Wesson. The gun is listed as excellent condition and it's in the original box. I never thought I would buy a Dan 1911 but this story is too good! 
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