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waltfraz
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August 18, 2011 - 4:46 pm
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Here is another stuckbarrel nut story.First I bought 41 mag 8vh I thought on a good deal when it came I decided to remove BA well thats when I ran into problems.Broke one ear on ewk tool,then tried heat no good,soaked in bd blaster put in milling machine vice tried punch no good.Next went to threaded rod grade 8 fine thread an grade 8 washers double nut grade 8 nuts.the nuts would not tighten tight enough so I welded top 2 nuts put impact on them locked wrench on bottom and tried to back out of frame didn't work grade 8 nuts stripped.final try mac tool air chesiel 3/32 point on 1/2" flat well it moved a little out of frame,I was able to unscrew it out of frame looks like someone used yellow locktite on barrel nut.Now I have to see if eric can chase threads on end and sell me a new barrel nut.Not such a good deal after allcry

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Eric and I discussed chasing DW threads a while back--lots of issues with the fine threads.  Maybe he has come up with something.

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August 18, 2011 - 9:08 pm
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Does it still look like a gun after you put all that machinery to it?wow

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August 18, 2011 - 9:12 pm
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If I could find my 50 year old thread file I could file them my self.It was made just like a knife with file marks on edge really was a neat tool.

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waltfraz said:

If I could find my 50 year old thread file I could file them my self.It was made just like a knife with file marks on edge really was a neat tool.

I have a few thread files, but none of them that fine--they really do work great.

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I have standard square thread files like you said they don't go that fine but the one I am talking about is very thin shaped like knife blade.

Harly;beside the  lead thread with a couple of marks on thread it looks good.

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Walt: Google search on "loctite solvent". You may be able to clean up those threads chemically rather than mechanically. There appear to be solvents for every type of Loctite.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Wow, that does sound like a nightmare! As I mentioned in the e-mail I sent you, I'll be glad to give rechasing the threads a try, never done one before, but I would like to try, I think I have a plan, shoot! Also, will get a replacement wrench to you. Getting something then have it fail the first time you use it is never good, even if it was no fault of the tool!

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Wow! You were serious about getting that nut loose and out. I counted at least 8 things you did. The fellow that put the locktite on the threads must not have had a barrel wrench. Or didn't think the barrel should ever be taken off. Hopefully Eric can repair it. Good luck!

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Eric,I will send out barrel to you tommrow,it was not the barrel wrenchs fault it was jerk that put loctite(yellow) on threads,thanks walt

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Sounds great, should be interesting to see what we can come up with!

Gary J, With enough time and money, just about anything is possible! Don't ask me how I know that! screwy

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EWK_Stuff said:

Sounds great, should be interesting to see what we can come up with!

Gary J, With enough time and money, just about anything is possible! Don't ask me how I know that! screwy

Just wondering how you do Know that!  Sounds like Walt will be up and running in the near future!  I have a few stuck barrel nuts that need some work may just have to load them up and take a trip east! 

 

Hey Walt you know!  post-pics  sorry had to! 

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August 19, 2011 - 6:34 am
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Good luck with it - you certainly get an A for effort on this one.  Considering the grief and aggravation on it you might want to consider just buying a new barrel.

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If barrel nuts aren't secured w/ locktight- I just learned a new tactic for removing stuck screws on an Enfield Snider.

I applied Kroil and it wouldn't give.  Let it soak a few days, still nothing.  Then one of my mechanics told me to stick a soldering iron to it.  Went through the heat/ cool process a couple of times and viola! unscrewed, cleaned, rescrewed.

It may work on barel nuts.  You're only heating the offending part and no others.  The expansion/ contraction did the trick.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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Shootist 357 you were mad about getting the wrong part. Now don't you feel bad about that now. It could be worse look at what poor Walt went through. LOL  slap

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Gary J said:

Shootist 357 you were mad about getting the wrong part. Now don't you feel bad about that now. It could be worse look at what poor Walt went through. LOL  slap

Seems like a rough day for a few of us... cry...In the end it will all work out -- one way or another.

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rwsem said:

If barrel nuts aren't secured w/ locktight- I just learned a new tactic for removing stuck screws on an Enfield Snider.

I applied Kroil and it wouldn't give.  Let it soak a few days, still nothing.  Then one of my mechanics told me to stick a soldering iron to it.  Went through the heat/ cool process a couple of times and viola! unscrewed, cleaned, rescrewed.

It may work on barel nuts.  You're only heating the offending part and no others.  The expansion/ contraction did the trick.

Great idea Ron !

 

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August 20, 2011 - 7:06 pm
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I tried soldering iron before heat gun someone told me yellow,purple, red locktite has to be over 1200 degrees to break bond Idon't know how true that is.

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Walt, I'm pretty sure it won't work on Locktite, but many times these are stuck just due to lack of maintenance.  In those instances, I'd give it a whirl.   A heat gun heats all pieces of metal, the soldering iron would be pinpointed to just the nut (thinnest piece so it should heat and cool the quickest).  Anyway- it worked on a 130+ year-old Snider screw so now I'm a fan.

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