Avatar
Please consider registering
Guest
Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Register Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
41 mag stuck barrel nut
Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
August 18, 2011 - 4:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Here is another stuckbarrel nut story.First I bought 41 mag 8vh I thought on a good deal when it came I decided to remove BA well thats when I ran into problems.Broke one ear on ewk tool,then tried heat no good,soaked in bd blaster put in milling machine vice tried punch no good.Next went to threaded rod grade 8 fine thread an grade 8 washers double nut grade 8 nuts.the nuts would not tighten tight enough so I welded top 2 nuts put impact on them locked wrench on bottom and tried to back out of frame didn't work grade 8 nuts stripped.final try mac tool air chesiel 3/32 point on 1/2" flat well it moved a little out of frame,I was able to unscrew it out of frame looks like someone used yellow locktite on barrel nut.Now I have to see if eric can chase threads on end and sell me a new barrel nut.Not such a good deal after allcry

Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Members


Range Officers
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
August 18, 2011 - 5:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Eric and I discussed chasing DW threads a while back--lots of issues with the fine threads.  Maybe he has come up with something.

SHOOT

Avatar
DakotaJack
SD
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 1718
Member Since:
August 28, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
August 18, 2011 - 9:08 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Does it still look like a gun after you put all that machinery to it?wow

Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
August 18, 2011 - 9:12 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

If I could find my 50 year old thread file I could file them my self.It was made just like a knife with file marks on edge really was a neat tool.

Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Members


Range Officers
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
August 18, 2011 - 9:36 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

waltfraz said:

If I could find my 50 year old thread file I could file them my self.It was made just like a knife with file marks on edge really was a neat tool.

I have a few thread files, but none of them that fine--they really do work great.

SHOOT

Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
August 18, 2011 - 10:04 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I have standard square thread files like you said they don't go that fine but the one I am talking about is very thin shaped like knife blade.

Harly;beside the  lead thread with a couple of marks on thread it looks good.

Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
Avatar
Steve
Member

Dans Club
Forum Posts: 10330
Member Since:
March 2, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
August 18, 2011 - 10:32 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Walt: Google search on "loctite solvent". You may be able to clean up those threads chemically rather than mechanically. There appear to be solvents for every type of Loctite.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

Avatar
EWK_Stuff
Richmond, OH
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 608
Member Since:
October 13, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
August 18, 2011 - 10:34 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Wow, that does sound like a nightmare! As I mentioned in the e-mail I sent you, I'll be glad to give rechasing the threads a try, never done one before, but I would like to try, I think I have a plan, shoot! Also, will get a replacement wrench to you. Getting something then have it fail the first time you use it is never good, even if it was no fault of the tool!

Avatar
Gary J
Georgia
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 894
Member Since:
May 3, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
August 18, 2011 - 10:41 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Wow! You were serious about getting that nut loose and out. I counted at least 8 things you did. The fellow that put the locktite on the threads must not have had a barrel wrench. Or didn't think the barrel should ever be taken off. Hopefully Eric can repair it. Good luck!

Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
August 18, 2011 - 11:03 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Eric,I will send out barrel to you tommrow,it was not the barrel wrenchs fault it was jerk that put loctite(yellow) on threads,thanks walt

Avatar
EWK_Stuff
Richmond, OH
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 608
Member Since:
October 13, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12
August 18, 2011 - 11:29 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Sounds great, should be interesting to see what we can come up with!

Gary J, With enough time and money, just about anything is possible! Don't ask me how I know that! screwy

Avatar
Dave_Ks
Kansas

Range Officer
Members


Range Officers


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 4300
Member Since:
March 27, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
13
August 19, 2011 - 6:25 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

EWK_Stuff said:

Sounds great, should be interesting to see what we can come up with!

Gary J, With enough time and money, just about anything is possible! Don't ask me how I know that! screwy

Just wondering how you do Know that!  Sounds like Walt will be up and running in the near future!  I have a few stuck barrel nuts that need some work may just have to load them up and take a trip east! 

 

Hey Walt you know!  post-pics  sorry had to! 

DSCN1339.jpg

Avatar
DakotaJack
SD
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 1718
Member Since:
August 28, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
14
August 19, 2011 - 6:34 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Good luck with it - you certainly get an A for effort on this one.  Considering the grief and aggravation on it you might want to consider just buying a new barrel.

Avatar
rwsem
SOWELA (Southwest Louisiana)

Supporter
Members


Moderators


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 5346
Member Since:
February 22, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
15
August 19, 2011 - 6:44 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

If barrel nuts aren't secured w/ locktight- I just learned a new tactic for removing stuck screws on an Enfield Snider.

I applied Kroil and it wouldn't give.  Let it soak a few days, still nothing.  Then one of my mechanics told me to stick a soldering iron to it.  Went through the heat/ cool process a couple of times and viola! unscrewed, cleaned, rescrewed.

It may work on barel nuts.  You're only heating the offending part and no others.  The expansion/ contraction did the trick.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

Avatar
Gary J
Georgia
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 894
Member Since:
May 3, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
16
August 19, 2011 - 9:05 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Shootist 357 you were mad about getting the wrong part. Now don't you feel bad about that now. It could be worse look at what poor Walt went through. LOL  slap

Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Members


Range Officers
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
17
August 19, 2011 - 9:53 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Gary J said:

Shootist 357 you were mad about getting the wrong part. Now don't you feel bad about that now. It could be worse look at what poor Walt went through. LOL  slap

Seems like a rough day for a few of us... cry...In the end it will all work out -- one way or another.

SHOOT

Avatar
Blacktop
OHIO
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 3004
Member Since:
February 11, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
18
August 20, 2011 - 4:27 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

rwsem said:

If barrel nuts aren't secured w/ locktight- I just learned a new tactic for removing stuck screws on an Enfield Snider.

I applied Kroil and it wouldn't give.  Let it soak a few days, still nothing.  Then one of my mechanics told me to stick a soldering iron to it.  Went through the heat/ cool process a couple of times and viola! unscrewed, cleaned, rescrewed.

It may work on barel nuts.  You're only heating the offending part and no others.  The expansion/ contraction did the trick.

Great idea Ron !

 

-Blacktop

+DW.jpg

Avatar
waltfraz
n.carolina
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 720
Member Since:
December 27, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
19
August 20, 2011 - 7:06 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I tried soldering iron before heat gun someone told me yellow,purple, red locktite has to be over 1200 degrees to break bond Idon't know how true that is.

Avatar
rwsem
SOWELA (Southwest Louisiana)

Supporter
Members


Moderators


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 5346
Member Since:
February 22, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
20
August 20, 2011 - 10:57 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Walt, I'm pretty sure it won't work on Locktite, but many times these are stuck just due to lack of maintenance.  In those instances, I'd give it a whirl.   A heat gun heats all pieces of metal, the soldering iron would be pinpointed to just the nut (thinnest piece so it should heat and cool the quickest).  Anyway- it worked on a 130+ year-old Snider screw so now I'm a fan.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 658
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 80
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Steve: 10330
SHOOTIST357: 4788
Dave_Ks: 4300
Ole Dog: 4064
Stinger: 3444
Supermagfan: 3250
zoommb: 3161
IHMSA80x80: 3014
Blacktop: 3004
brucertx: 2311
Newest Members:
Shawnrug
AnnelKix
MrBigfugh
MichaelHag
JoesphMop
adam ball
mercadosally
Bula dinor 000x dan-wesson-guru.com EA
smoke
Bula dinor 000x dan-wesson-guru.com Px
Forum Stats:
Groups: 11
Forums: 42
Topics: 16834
Posts: 148277

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 87
Members: 11648
Moderators: 4
Admins: 1
Administrators: Jody
Moderators: lbruce, Charger Fan, rwsem, SCORPIO