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April 20, 2010
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A little while back I bought a model 44 made in Norwich, a First Issue blued one. When I took off the grip on the right side under the grip it has a crest and says Australian Issue sort of like the Pointman Aussie 1911s. Does anybody else have a Norwich First Issue marked like this, or ever seen one? I am not sure the significance if it has any at all.
I did try to email Bob Serva who owned Dan Wesson Firearms at the time it was manufactured but did not get a response. But he is a busy guy and doesn't know me anyway. I just am curious as to why it has the Australian Issue marking. I did take it to the range and boy does it shoot great. The 8VH is really too heavy for me but at 15 yds offhand I shot 6 in a 4" group which for me is good with a gun that heavy. At 25 yds on sandbags I put all 6 in 3" which for me is great. Decided to try 3 shots at 50 yds, and all 3 shots were in a 1.5" string! Dumb luck I am sure but it was still fun.
Here are a few pics-
Last pic is with new LB grip in Maple
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March 2, 2008
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Just when you think you've seen it all, something new pops up.
And I would never have expected such a light colored wood to look so damn good on a blued gun. HUH!
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January 24, 2009
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Honestly, this is the first I've heard of anything "Aussie" on a DW revolver, that is really cool!
I hope Bob does answer back on this, this would be good stuff to know. Oh, and I'm with Steve on the grip color, that looks great!
Since this is an "Aussie Issue" topic & since I have my pic host site open at the moment, I hope you don't mind if I post a couple pics of my own DW Aussie.
For anyone not in the know, this is a DW PMA-B "Pointman Aussie Blue" 45ACP 1911.
January 22, 2008
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Cool guns guys!
There are rumors that when the very restrictive gun laws passed in Australia, the local hardware stores and home centers sold out of large PVC pipe 
Now I don't think a 44 Mag can be legally owned here (not in Western Australia anyway). IIRC the maximum allowable caliber size is 9mm/.38/.357 in a handgun.
So it is interesting that Norwich would produce .44 and .45 caliber "Australia Issue" firearms, as it's unlikely they'd ever be imported into Oz.
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Very nice find Lonwolf that may be almost a one of a kind gun.
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I was just rooting around and found this on a wiki search. Not sure how accurate but thought I might throw it in here. Some info on revolvers too, but nothing about any Aussie stamps on them...
Dan Wesson M1911 ACP Pistol
| Dan Wesson DW M1911 model | |
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Dan Wesson DW RZ-10 ( Razorback )
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| Type | Semi-automatic pistol |
| Place of origin |  United States |
| Production history | |
| Manufacturer | Dan Wesson Firearms |
| Produced | 2005 |
| Specifications | |
| Weight | 2.4 lbs |
| Length | 8.8 inches |
| Barrel length | 5 inches |
| Height | 5.5 inches |
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| Cartridge | .45 ACP, 10mm Auto 9mm Parabellum |
| Action | SA |
| Rate of fire | Semi-automatic |
| Feed system | Detachable box magazine |
| Sights | Fixed iron sights |
The Dan Wesson M1911 pistol is a series of model 1911 semi-automatic pistols.[1][2][3][4][5]
Dan Wesson M1911 pistols are made at the Dan Wesson Firearms manufacturing facility in Norwich, New York. They are marketed and distributed by CZ-USA.
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- Dan Wesson model DW PMA-S - Pointman Aussie
- Dan Wesson model DW PMA-B - Pointman Aussie
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January 22, 2008
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I have had a few different Norwich first issue guns and they were marked first issue with the number under the grip. Ill try to pull the grips on the couple I have left and take pictures.
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April 20, 2010
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When I pulled the grip off and saw the Australian Issue I thought it was pretty different. We will see maybe someday somebody else will see this thread that has one and post. I am sure the gun is no different than any other First Issue otherwise, it seems like a standard .44. Unfortunately it did not come with a box or any paperwork. I wish the marking was on the side instead of under the grip so you could see it. Maybe I can ask LB to make a grip with a little plexiglass window on the side!
just kidding.
I also do really like the maple against the bluing, another work of art by LB.
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January 22, 2008
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Good Morning Guys,
I pull the grips on my Norwich 732 and 445 yesterday evening and snapped these picture. I was mistaken the number is not included under the grip. Only "Dan Wesson First Issue"...
Pretty cool variation you have Lonwolf, hopefully we can get some information on it.
Jody
Please forgive the poor picture quality as this was taken from my mobile phone.
January 22, 2008
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Just a follow-up, I sent Keith an email at Dan Wesson about this and he remembered seeing some brass name plates for the pistol packs with the Australian Issue on them but would have been done prior to 2003 when he started there.
He did say that Bob seemed to have a special issue every so often so who knows what others are out there! Hopefully Bob Serva will respond to your email.
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October 14, 2010
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Maybe they were going to be for the Australian IHMSA team? Probably not but who knows?
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April 20, 2010
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Well I did email Bob Serva but that was a couple months ago so I doubt he will answer. Perhaps I will try him again sometime. I am sure he is very busy with Fusion.
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January 22, 2008
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You could send SMF a note and ask him to since I know he's had some dealings with him.
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March 27, 2009
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OK i am recalling those first issues so box them up and send them over here!
Thanks for adding more to DW mix!
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April 20, 2010
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Jody said
You could send SMF a note and ask him to since I know he's had some dealings with him.
That's a good idea we havent heard from SMF for a while anyway, I will email him when I get time.
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March 19, 2015
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wdelack said
Cool guns guys!
There are rumors that when the very restrictive gun laws passed in Australia, the local hardware stores and home centers sold out of large PVC pipe
Now I don't think a 44 Mag can be legally owned here (not in Western Australia anyway). IIRC the maximum allowable caliber size is 9mm/.38/.357 in a handgun.
So it is interesting that Norwich would produce .44 and .45 caliber "Australia Issue" firearms, as it's unlikely they'd ever be imported into Oz.
Not True, We can have any Cal upto .45 and including 460 S&W.
They were never banned just restricted and can only be used in Matches like Metalic Sil.
January 22, 2008
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Aussie-DW said
wdelack said
Cool guns guys!
There are rumors that when the very restrictive gun laws passed in Australia, the local hardware stores and home centers sold out of large PVC pipe
Now I don't think a 44 Mag can be legally owned here (not in Western Australia anyway). IIRC the maximum allowable caliber size is 9mm/.38/.357 in a handgun.
So it is interesting that Norwich would produce .44 and .45 caliber "Australia Issue" firearms, as it's unlikely they'd ever be imported into Oz.
Not True, We can have any Cal upto .45 and including 460 S&W.
They were never banned just restricted and can only be used in Matches like Metalic Sil.
Hmm, nothing in the wording of my post would indicate anything was banned. The caliber restriction is based on what I found online -> "In Australia, civilians are not allowed to possess automatic and semi-automatic firearms, self-loading and pump action shotguns, handguns with a calibre in excess of .38in with only narrow exemptions, semi-automatic handguns with a barrel length less than 120mm, and revolvers with a barrel length less than 100mm" (http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia).
I still stand by my statement that the Aussie Issue Dan Wessons likely would have never been exported to Australia.
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wdelack said
Aussie-DW said
wdelack said
Cool guns guys!
There are rumors that when the very restrictive gun laws passed in Australia, the local hardware stores and home centers sold out of large PVC pipe
Now I don't think a 44 Mag can be legally owned here (not in Western Australia anyway). IIRC the maximum allowable caliber size is 9mm/.38/.357 in a handgun.
So it is interesting that Norwich would produce .44 and .45 caliber "Australia Issue" firearms, as it's unlikely they'd ever be imported into Oz.
Not True, We can have any Cal upto .45 and including 460 S&W.
They were never banned just restricted and can only be used in Matches like Metalic Sil.
Hmm, nothing in the wording of my post would indicate anything was banned. The caliber restriction is based on what I found online -> "In Australia, civilians are not allowed to possess automatic and semi-automatic firearms, self-loading and pump action shotguns, handguns with a calibre in excess of .38in with only narrow exemptions, semi-automatic handguns with a barrel length less than 120mm, and revolvers with a barrel length less than 100mm" (http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia).
I still stand by my statement that the Aussie Issue Dan Wessons likely would have never been exported to Australia.
True, Nothing in your wording indicates Banned. But ownership on some Firearms and accessories have been banned down here. All select Fire weapons are banned and Suppressors are near impossible to own. Certain calibers have been banned at ranges. Semi Auto Rifles, Shotguns and Pump Shotguns can be had with the right permits, Not real hard if you know how.Barrel length for handguns as stated above is correct but above .38 cal easy to get, Just tell them you shoot Met Sil or Cowboy Action. I know people everyday buying 1911's in 45acp and other handguns above .38 using the Met Sil excuse. They can't refuse you a permit to purchase.
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Sounds like Connecticut or New York.
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