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DA....64
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This is Don from Wis. I am hooked on picking up a SM how do tell the difference between newer vs. older?  I was told by a member earlier the better.

 

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DA....63 said
This is Don from Wis. I am hooked on picking up a SM how do tell the difference between newer vs. older?  I was told by a member earlier the better. 

What caliber are you talking and SS or blue. Monson made are the earliest and then Palmer, also I think Norwich made some and are the newest. SMs were made in .357 Max, .375 SM and .445. Not sure if earlier is "better", maybe a little more collectible.

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I am looking for a 357 to start, stainless prefered but a blue would worknjust as well.  

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Don't forget the elusive .414 SM that very few have been able to corral up.  Timing of manufacture is all up for debate regarding preference.  Personally, I prefer the latest production which would be Norwich.

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Don't forget the elusive .414 SM that very few have been able to corral up.  Timing of manufacture is all up for debate regarding preference.  Personally, I prefer the latest production which would be Norwich.  

Oh yeah, the 414, thanks.

Also there's a good write up on SMs on the main page.

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All large frame and supermags were made at Palmer even if roll marked Monson. Except for the Norwich guns. IMHO, the fit and finish of the Norwich guns are extraordinary. Especially the small frame First Issue models.On the SS guns the bead blasting looks like diamond dust and the frame pins are polished flush with the frame. Like a Manurhin. 

One thing to watch out for is the flame etching on the top strap of a model 40 or 740. Some of the early ones were well used  for IHMSA with lighter bullets. Not a danger but an indication of hard usage. 

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Good to see you advancing your education and willing to consider other view points, this is what is needed to craft a well rounded "collector", whatever your final decision is.goodluck  

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Thanks to all who have commented please keep suggestions coming.  I was thinking of starting with a 357 SM, any thoughts?  How hard is ammo to come by?  Thanks in advance for all suggestions.

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I am not much of an expert on Super Mags, but I'd say that starting with .357 SM is a great idea, you can still shoot .357 Magnum. The same is true for .445 SM and .44 Magnum, but I think the price point on buying a .357 SM might be a little easier.

THIS article will give you a little more insight into the Super Mags

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I agree with rwsem, the finish on the Norwich guns is fantastic.  I like the look of the First Issue guns best of all.  

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Oh, sorry ole dog, small phone screen and fatigue yields misreads.

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Ole Dog said
One thing to watch out for is the flame etching on the top strap of a model 40 or 740. Some of the early ones were well used  for IHMSA with lighter bullets. Not a danger but an indication of hard usage.   

Not to be argumentative, but the IHMSA folks understood the reason for the .357 SuperMag round, and that was to shoot heavy bullets of 170-200 grains to take down those pesky rams.

The gun writers and other less knowledgeable folks tried to see how fast they could shoot light 110-125 grain bullets out of these guns, which was the real cause of excessive flame-cutting.

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