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January 12, 2025 - 2:10 pm
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Hi. 

I'm from a small county in Europe called Estonia. I recently acquired a Dan Wesson revolver. A real exotic here. As I understand it was originally imported to Finland and bought from a gun auction there. It came without a box, tools or any documents. As Dan Wesson is basically unheard of here, the gun shop where I bought it, couldn't tell me anything about it. However I was intrigued by it and decided to buy it. Going through this forum I have gathered that I have a model 715 (stainless steel), with a vented (V), full underlug (H), 10 inch barrel. A model 715 VH10 then! I only have this one 10" barrel and none of the tools to remove it. No wrench or the feeler gauge. When I got it, the first thing I did was to take it apart and deep clean it. However as I don't have the tools for removing the barrel, I left that part alone. I was wondering, if the gun came with just this one barrel and by the looks of it, it has never been off, should I still try to remove it? Is there some area that might need attention, that can't be reached without removing the barrel? If I could theoretically somehow find the tools needed to remove and install the barrel. Is there a risk that the accuracy of the gun may be compromised? I have read that accuracy is dependent on the tension of the barrel nut. Can anybody also guess what might be the production year for this revolver?

Thank you and looking forward to learn as much about the revolver as possible.

Erik

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The gun you have probably came with the barrel that's on it, but it's possible it had others, likely no way to ever know for sure.

Removing and reinstalling the barrel won't effect accuracy.  It's  not required to remove the barrel for cleaning and nothing besides the inside of the shroud and outside of barrel tube will be revealed by removing.  Being that you're in Europe, I don't know how easy it is to get parts like barrel nuts and wrenches.  

It would be best to use a proper wrench to remove the nut to avoid stripping it out.  

Perhaps a machine shop could make one for you if they can't be bought in your country. 

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Thank you for the info. I was aware of the EWK Arms, but I havent yet looked into the specifics of ordering from them. Usually anything that has even a mild resemblance to an ITAR item is un shippable since the duties and bureaucracy involved makes it economically unviable. I don't know if the wrenches are also controlled items but I wouldn't be surprised if they are. For example grips are. I have tried ordering those in the past and failed. It might be possible through a shipping agent. I have to look into it.

I agree that most likely the revolver came with just this one barrel. This theory is corroborated by the fact that barrel, cylinder, frame and slide are all controlled items in Europe and a person must have a separate licence for every one of those "essential" firearm parts. Since one can own only a finite number of firearms (usually 8 here in Estonia), nobody would waste a "spot" on their licence for just a barrel.

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dwf-welcomedwf I could list it on eBay for you and then try shipping thru eBay. If we listed it as just a tool it may get thru. Let me know I can order for you or I have one that uses a wrench to take barrel nut off. I guess though you would need another barrel or what's the point of taking the barrel off. Also I can ship one of those but it depends can you order stuff from America thru ebay global shipping program? You can go to my eBay store and all my stuff is available to any country thru my store. My eBay store is stantonusa There are still some barrels that are available thru CZ-USA I have one of the hex drive 357 WRENCHES. THey have for sale still 2.5VH, 4VH, 6VH & 8VH barrel & shrouds for sale. Screenshot-2025-01-12-5.45.14-PM.pngImage Enlarger

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Hi Eric - I highly appreciate your offer. If the parts are listed as tools, which they actually are, then I'm sure I can order them through eBay of have them shipped. I'll DM you the details when I've decided on the tools I need. Barrels unfortunately are out of the question.

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That's a really nice gun you got there.  Here's my advice......first, CZ can't/won't ship the barrels to Europe.  Since you don't have any extra barrels to install on the gun, I'd check the cylinder/bore gap and if it's withing spec. (.006), I'd leave the barrel alone and resist the urge to take it off.  It's probably been on the gun for the past 30 or 40 years and may be a tough one to get off.  You need to do it cautiously and correctly otherwise you run the risk of stripping out the barrel nut and you are not equipped with the right tools to fix it.  If you strip out the barrel nut you can't get a replacement unless you have one made or someone ships you one.  EWK doesn't ship overseas and you'd need one of his wrenches.  If you end up getting one of the EWK wrenches somehow, you can try to put some liquid penetrant on the threads and turn the nut off, but if it doesn't budge then stop because its very easy to strip out the nut.   The easiest way to avoid stripping the nut is to clamp it down so that tangs in the wrench do not slip out of the slots.  I'll find the photo in the forum and post it.  For now, I'd leave it alone until you have all the tools to safely remove it without damaging it.

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Here is how to remove a stuck barrel nut without stripping or damaging it.....it's really simple.

 

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I ran across a disassembly manual a few years ago that showed the "proper" way to use a barrel nut tool was to place it on the work bench and then press the muzzle down on it. kind of made sense once I did it- no more slipping due to the torque of the hand making the tool uneven in the slots.  Still- get an EWK wrench to preserve the plastic joint of the originals.

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rwsem said
I ran across a disassembly manual a few years ago that showed the "proper" way to use a barrel nut tool was to place it on the work bench and then press the muzzle down on it. kind of made sense once I did it- no more slipping due to the torque of the hand making the tool uneven in the slots.  Still- get an EWK wrench to preserve the plastic joint of the originals.

  

I have put my barrel nut tool on the floor, stand over it and turned the nut right off!

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