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I thought as much , I do understand how dryfiring a .22 is hard on the firing pin because of the shape . I also understand how a hammer fired pistol should be ok . 

  What I worry about is the pin spring being fully compressed and pounding on the spring seat  possibly damaging the pistol frame.

   I really want to practice trigger discipline but dont wanna damage my new pistol.

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Technically, I'm sure there is no problem with dry firing a DW. I guess I'm just old school, but I always use snap caps when dry firing any of my revolvers. I dry fire a lot, as it's a very inexpensive way to fine tune my trigger control skills. I sometimes will dry fire for an hour at a time, and the results at the range the following day are worth it. I'm no metallurgist, but I can't help but think that the firing pin bottoming out on the frame that much could eventually cause a fracture. I've heard of it happening, but I think it was on hammers with a firing pin nose attached like an older Smith or Colt. The spring loaded pin on a DW probably mitigates the potential for damage, but the minimal cost of a set of snap caps is painless insurance.

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One of the many cool things about a Dan, is that you can dry fire it with the cylinder in the open position.

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When I responded earlier I was on my phone which really limits my ability to post. Now that I am back in front of a desktop I will echo 3ric, if you do a lot of dry firing snap caps will offer extra insurance as well be more realistic if you are doing training like emergency reloads and the like. If just practicing trigger squeeze not so much, but the snap caps sure won't hurt. 

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Just to make sure, this applies to ALL DW's, not just 22s

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Jake2670 said
Just to make sure, this applies to ALL DW's, not just 22s  

At least all the small frame revolvers .. the large frame trigger group is different and I'm not sure about those.

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Do not dry fire a rim fire. Without a case in the chamber the firing pin strikes the rear face of the cylinder and the edge of the chamber. VERY BAD. The firing pin can break too. I doubt dry firing harms the frame of a DW. Practicing trigger control by dry firing also polishes the lockwork and and inside frame. Several thousand trigger pulls is somewhat like a trigger job. The steel is extraordinarily hard. Not soft like an older Smith. Dan was a metallurgist and consummate machinist. Investment cast frames enabled harder steel to be used. 

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I've dry fired my 15/715 revolvers thousands of times over the last 43 years(Yikes) and have never had any firing pin, hammer or any other issues from doing it. My first 15-2 was dry fired so often my girlfriend and mother both yelled at me to knock it off, the noise got to them. 

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Glad to hear you've had such good luck with your dry firing experiences. I'll stick with my snap caps for the extra insurance of never having to deal with the pain in the #** experience of replacing the firing pin on any of my revolvers. Just my 2 cents.

BTW, I know that you mean about others in the house complaining about the snap, snap, snapping of a good dry firing session. My wife hears it even if we're on different floors of our home.

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3ric, that is because women have super hearing. If they claim they didn't hear you yelling for them it is because your supposed to come look for them, not walk in the house and yell for them. Something about having babies enhances the hearing I think.

 On another note. I haven't done this yet but I will some day. Colgate TOTAL advanced deep clean paste toothpaste is the only toothpaste where hydrated silica is the number on ingredient. All the rest are for sissies. I have used it to mitigate scratches in eyeglasses and it will clean gun parts. I suspect if you fill a Dan with the paste and dry fire a thousand times the inside of the frame and lockwork will be slick as a rock in a mountain stream. Make sure you dry and oil the gun good when you wash out the toothpaste. 

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Happens to be my brand of toothpaste, Ole Dog, but I think my old DWs are already smoothed up from general use after 47 years or so. Would be a good thing to try on a new or very slightly used revolver though. You might be onto something with the women's hearing thing. Amazing creatures women are, indeed.

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3ric, that is because women have super hearing. If they claim they didn't hear you yelling for them it is because your supposed to come look for them, not walk in the house and yell for them. Something about having babies enhances the hearing I think.

 On another note. I haven't done this yet but I will some day. Colgate TOTAL advanced deep clean paste toothpaste is the only toothpaste where hydrated silica is the number on ingredient. All the rest are for sissies. I have used it to mitigate scratches in eyeglasses and it will clean gun parts. I suspect if you fill a Dan with the paste and dry fire a thousand times the inside of the frame and lockwork will be slick as a rock in a mountain stream. Make sure you dry and oil the gun good when you wash out the toothpaste.   

I used to use Pepsodent to polish up the display glass/plastic on old radios. It looked like the Colgate can do the same thing. I have some stuff I bought online a couple of years ago for the same purpose, but the Pepsodent worked better, IMHO.

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3ric said
Glad to hear you've had such good luck with your dry firing experiences. I'll stick with my snap caps for the extra insurance of never having to deal with the pain in the #** experience of replacing the firing pin on any of my revolvers. Just my 2 cents.

BTW, I know that you mean about others in the house complaining about the snap, snap, snapping of a good dry firing session. My wife hears it even if we're on different floors of our home.  

If my first DW 15-2 wasn't harmed by dry firing, it's not possible for at least a center fire small frame to be harmed by it. When I bought the gun, it was super dirty inside and the original owner had clipped the mainspring, and it wasn't reliable at all. Lots of weak primer hits, so I replaced the spring, and when I cleaned up the inside of the gun, I could see how, well, not smooth everything was. I had some superfine sandpaper and used that a little bit and asked the old gunsmith at the gun store near my house, now called "The Gun Store" in Las Vegas, and he told me to dry fire the crap out of it dry, then lube it up and keep doing it, "until it smooths out really well", so snap away I did. I would come home from work and sit in front of the TV and snap away. My GF cracked and yelled at me, then I went to my mom's place for dinner after shooting it the next day, and got started doing it there, until I got yelled at some more, and after that, only did it in private. Between the thousands of dry fires, I put thousands of rounds through that gun, and the only repair other than the mainspring replacement was the trigger spring broke. I had one already so it was a 30 second fix. About 10 years later, I sold that gun to a friend who was supposed to let me have a chance to buy it back if he ever sold it, but he forgot and sold it to a friend of his who still has it. It's never had a single issue for him and still looks almost as pretty as the better looking of my two 15-2's:

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