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Ok, so you may have noticed I haven't been on the forum much this week. I have poked my head in once or twice but no real time. I got a call from Aaron Reed on Monday morning. Aaron, is the son of one of my old State Trooper friends. I din't know he was Chuck Reeds son but I had heard of him. He is a Navy Seal, he shoots 3-Gun Nation professionally, sponsored by Remington and Bushmaster. He is the owner of Ops United, http://www.opsunited.us/  there web page,  a training company for security and survival and I think Triple Measure, workplace violence training towards active shooter, and the like. Didn't get to discuss all the aspects of that venture. He is also, the owner  of Kodiak Koatings, here in Shelbyville. They do Cerakote.  He says he wants to meet with me, someone had told him I was a smith and he had a proposition for me.  They get allotments of weapons from different places. Individuals, gun stores and of all places Glock manufacturing. He gets all kinds he tells me and they have young guys who can do a lot but they cannot seem to figure out how to get guns put back together at times. On this occasion, it was CZ 99's from back in the 70's. I'll show some pics..  His biggest take right now is from Glock.

So I go to help them out on Tuesday, with the CZ's and then there are also, some FN- Browning Hi-Power knock-offs which I disassemble in short order then I look at these 15 CZ's, they are almost identical to the Sig 229, only difference is the Mag release assembly and the main spring shape and location. Piece of cake... Well, the mag release turned out to be a real kick in the keister, but I got'em by jacks.. Wed. I am putting things together and Fed Ex shows up, and the Manager Truman, says hey take a look.  Two pallets, Glock 17, 19, and 23  chambered in 9 para and 40 S&W.  They strip the slides and disassemble the slide to coat the color of the formed frame Glock.  I been in heaven all week.. I am going back next week to help put all the Glocks back together from the second April shipment... Now check these out...20150422_132000-640x360.jpgImage Enlarger

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of the CZ. The first is called Patriot Brown. Grips and action parts went back to Gun Black. The Second, I hadn't finished is Tugsten. The bottom row first one of course is Gun Black and the next, is what they are calling their stainless. They name is Aluminum Metallic, IIRC, thats what it is. I had on my flash so it turned out white in the photo, but it is a very nice Stainless look for real.

 

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Now this is from the Fed Ex Shipment.

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 2 pallets like this, a total of 740 Glocks.

Their second run this month. They said next month will slow down because of the new Mod 43 and another, which I forget. Sad sometimes getting old. But the new models will start only Black.

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10 guns in a case. I was helping them out here as well. notice the slides in the plastic container.

Then below is a Gen 4  23 with the slide removed and the separated components to the side, ready to be bagged and place in the gun box. The slides will then be coated to the Austrian Dark Earth to match the frame. Now I may have mentioned, I am not such a Glock Fan, I won't tell ya I was more than a little impressed by this operation.

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Next is a couple of shots with some guys spraying the color before they go to the oven for 2  hours at some crazy temp. Sorry I forgot the oven pics but they are huge and each rack they have to go in there hold a 100 parts jigged to hang.

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  This first guy is spraying an Orange that a customer wanted on

their Glock grips. A walk in.. and then The other guy is actually spr.ying the Glock slides. I will do a photo update next week of the finished slide so we can all see how they turn out.

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So. if you by a Glock in the next few weeks that is colored Dark Earth, with the serial beginning  ZBF, ZBH, or ZBN.. Chances are old Cecil here has had hands on it...lol  Another one for the books.  No not CZ/Dan Wesson but I had a great time with these folks and look forward to next week.

Sorry such a long read, but I enjoyed sharing with you guys...and gals..

 

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Not long at all Cecil, really enjoyed it.  Did Aaron buy these to resell or was he doing this for a reseller? Looks like a good business for m, nice to see.

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Cecil, Looks like an interesting week for you. I hope you were appreciated....as  in " would you like one of these ? to take home"

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George, these came from Glock and I assume go to a distributor for them when done. I will try to find that out, next week. The CZ's and FN Brownings were from a dealer in Chicago area of all places.

Ron, I had no idea either, but I am no fan of Glock, tho they are looking better as of late...lol  I was told it was cheaper for them to have the slides done out, since the frame moldings are in color, they don't have to set up an in house color shop.

Roger, nothing as good as that, however I was told I could buy weapons from their sources at significantly reduces prices..... what does that mean???? Not entirely  sure but 15 or 20 % or more would be cool. Not knowing the retail mark up doesn't  help. 

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"George, these came from Glock and I assume go to a distributor for them when done. I will try to find that out, next week."

 

I was just curious, don't push it if it's sensitive info, don't want him to feel uncomfortable.

Have fun!

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Small Glock fan, myself... here's my 10mm long slide that I built:

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That looks pretty good Ron. I was telling those guys I may have to pull the slide off this new M&P I got for Anniversary and Have that stainless look added. Now I've seen a "black n white" it does have an appeal.

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Photohaus, These pistols do come from Glock Industries. When they leave the will go to Lipsey's Firearms Distributors. Truman told me they are the largest purchaser at the moment. There are a few others, he says, but the large orders of a thousand or more go to Lipsey's. While I was taking a few more picks in the shop this morning, fed ex dropped another 350. Not sure of the models there yet.

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 Ok so here are a couple shots of the ovens, full, about 80 here.

Those racks will hold about 200 slides. However, to keep them from clinking or sticking, because of the fans inside, they do about 80 or so in the small oven and about 150 in the large oven.

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They bake for a little over 2 hours at 200 hundred degrees. This makes the stryker shaft sleeve shrink and not melt out. Other pieces will bake at 320 for about 40 mins.

Next are some slides colored and I have them lined up at my work space to start reassembly.

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Now they have a plastic sleeve in the stryker shaft that has to be replaced, that is a pain to remove until it has been heated, the sleeve has then shrunk. I pull those with a o-ring hook and place a new one in the shaft.

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They will only work one way, but they will fit either way. You can kinda judge how deep by the insertion tool.

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The rears came in that box corner in the shot. The box is about 18" sq. Same size with those sleeves, though there are 6 attached to a ring. the front sight and it's screw came in boxes about 10". Truman said he thinks they are 10000 to a box. That little tiny screws filling a box is pretty darn heavy.

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 Drive in the rears.

The fronts pop in a slot and then get a tiny screw.

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Sorry not clear I tried to magnify a little. The little driver there is magnetic.

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 Then I am ready to put the extractor and safety plunger back in. The stryker and the stryker keeper. Funny to say cause I usually would say firing pin keep, if 1911..  I didn't take a shot of the completed pistol;. Don't know why???? oh well, another day for that. Slides are not quite as dark as the frames but they do look nice. I really got work on my picture taking if I plan on telling another story.... I will finish the shots for ya. That is pretty much what goes on there. I may not be much of a Glock fan, but I sure am becoming acquainted with this gun... Who Knows???

I sure hope you folks are thinking this is a worth while story share. I truly am impressed with this process and the colors, some are pretty amazing. They are working on a jungle camo. I saw it and it is different. I used to have some fatigues like that.

Oh, I wish I would have taken the pics of those orange grips, I sorta showed before. Gone now. The color is like that of the orange on the muzzle of toy guns. I will post a few more pics of slide assemblies and finished gun so you can know the color on them. Thanks for taken time to read my ramblings.

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Hmm, Lipsey's.  One of my employees has a son in law who works there.... may have to take a drive down there.

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Great thread Cecil. You sound like you are enjoying every minute of it. Good for you.

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Great thread, I enjoy Glocks myself.  Thanks for sharing.

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I agree, really cool! Thanks for sharing with us.

One thing though, doesn't it seem a little counter productive to ship assembled guns...disassemble...coat...then reassemble? Why don't these manufacturers simply ship boxes of various parts they would like custom coated, then return said parts and assemble at the factory & ship from there?

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thats like a million dollar question brother. I thought exactly the same thing when I saw what was going on at this place, but hey, if that were the case I wouldn't have been invited to check them out... as of this afternoon there were still 295 left to put back together. I guess my fum will be done late tomorrow. I have had a blast.

Maybe I'll get a call back... who knows, right. 

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Well, I will be there again tomorrow May 4. One of the guys who works there took off at lunch on Friday for a wedding up in Michigan and then he was going to be a counselor at a summer camp, I think he said some where on the west bank. Does that sound right, SR & BR. I believe that is what he said. At the end of the day Truman was just taking the last 125 out of the oven. So he and I will knock those out on Monday. I was asked to take apart an Colt AR, that came in for a color job. I almost felt like I was being tested. I think there was some questions because I was not familiar with Glocks, but hey, if I do not shoot them or own them.... anyway, that was short work as well on  this rifle... 

I had taken a couple more shots to show the complete gun that will be sent to Lipsey's. There is a slight difference in color but Truman assured me as soon as they were oiled, you wouldn't notice it.  Not My Job..hehe.

 

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As I said not much difference but you can see it. I might have to say, get an oily finger some how tomorrow just to see. Oh and I had said I was sure about that last small pallet of 350. They were model's 21, 23,  and long slide guns 34 and 35.

Sorry though Rwsem no  model 40. I think I am gonna miss the place. When/if I ever get out of this foot issue and workcomp. I might have to consider a job change again, lol.  It has been fun for me fellas. I hope you guys enjoyed this little experience into the world of Cerakote. I never imagined a painting a gun would turn me on so much...

Thanks for listening my friends.

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Thanks Cecil, It was really interesting. Always great to see craftsmen at work.

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Ok  Ron, Here is my cerakoted M&P slide. They did a super job I think and I just said a stainless look to fit the gun...

shots are with the overhead fluorescent lights on and then under flash.

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That kid Ethan is a genius with a tooth pick on the lettering. Told ya I was kinda diggin' the black and white look.

 

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