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44 Mag revolver cylinder arm question
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brian fisher
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Hi. I'm a New member: 

I have been target shooting and hunting for years.  I have mainly S&W revolvers, and heard great things about DW.  I wanted to know what all the fuss was about, so I found a 44 Mag with very little use (ring has not even penetrated bluing) but has cosmetic dings.  I have to admit I am sold.  What a pleasure to shoot .  I accidently got a 6″ fixed barrel version. It is a tank, but I was hoping for a 4″ or ability to change barrels. Still after a replaceable barrel model.

My question–   The cylinder is hard to extract and I cannot see any damage as I have miked it out.  It is real square and the forcing tube gap is perfect.  I noticed I could move the cylinder arm about 5 thousandths if I pushed it towards the handle and this helped a bit.  It snaps in easier than extracting it.  Does this sound normal?

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You may have dirt or powder in the latch. Clean it out and see if that helps. 

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June 7, 2021 - 6:11 pm
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OK Thanks.

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to get the trigger assembly out of the way to get at it   🙂

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I just went through that little bit of fun (removing the trigger assembly) last night.  You will find this thread very useful, as I did!  This thread will be just as useful to get everything reinstalled.  I used dental floss instead of thread (mine kept breaking) and cut it with a sharp dental tool once everything was back in place.  Either way, patience and perseverance will get everything reinstalled. 

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grumpyoldretiredcop said
I just went through that little bit of fun (removing the trigger assembly) last night.  You will find this thread very useful, as I did!  This thread will be just as useful to get everything reinstalled.  I used dental floss instead of thread (mine kept breaking) and cut it with a sharp dental tool once everything was back in place.  Either way, patience and perseverance will get everything reinstalled. 

  

GORC, great work not only finding the important threads, but working the links seamlessly into your post...I can tell this isn't your first time up to bat in a forum setting! big-grin Scroll through that thread, I had to fix the photos probably 4 times over the years! lol2

Dental floss sure is a nice substitute for thread for reassembly. Maybe it's the thread size that makes or breaks (sic) the deal? There is another old thread where someone decided that floss was the better way to go, maybe I should put an update note in that original how-to thread, to use floss instead...

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Thanks for the information.  Turns out I did not need to take this gun apart, but now have the right directions to service it.  I prepared to deal with this tight swing arm problem and to clean it.  I looked in behind the firing pin and trigger and the thing was real clean.  This made me wonder.  I got a magnifier and saw that the swivel point where the swing arm goes into the frame had a piece of thin metal slag that must have got caught there during assembly at the factory? I was able to wiggle the thing around and use an exacto blade to pry it out.  Works great now.

The gun was hardly shot I think? Hard to see a turn ring up close, but it looks like someone kept it in a toolbox based on the scratches and dings?  The barrel is a 6" fixed version and the odd thing is that it looks blued inside it, with very little wear?  I think this is old factory bluing based on experience, but I have not encountered this barrel bluing before, even with unfired revolvers.  I was going to have the thing re-blued and the dings patched up a bit, but not sure.

So I recently got this fixed model by accident on armslist.  I like this gun but was looking for a 4" 44Mag or one that I could change into one.  Does anyone think these fixed versions have any value for sell or trade towards what I was looking for?

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That is a really great question. I am a REALLY opinionated fellow. I have long eschewed fixed barrel Dans on general principal. They are half a Dan? It is missing the most intrinsic thing about a Dan. However, it is extremely accurate, you can put on any size or shape of grip you like and it is robust.

   For a long time they sold for a discount compared to the interchangable barrel models. They seem to now be selling at par or a slight premium. The word rare seems to be worth about $100.surprised. Most Gunbroker sellers neglect to mention that it is a fixed barrel gun. I would think they get a lot of complaints. Brian, you probably would not have purchased it if you knew.

   Palmer was renowned for the quality of their blueing. In addition to only being made from 1991 to 1995, they were the only Dans to have the Heavy shroud with a slant on the muzzle. They also were the only ones made in 3,5 and 7" lengths.

   I think the factory did sell a few interchangable barrels in at least 3" length. I have a 715 Palmer and a blue 15-2 Norwich BA. The Palmer has the heavy slanted shroud and the Norwich is VH. 

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I do sincerely appreciate the feedback.  I guess if it was advertised as a 4" fixed I would have knowingly bought it.  It shoots great and it is a Palmer.  So I guess it is decision time to sell, trade or keep and get the finish back.  Too bad the owner did not take good care of it cosmetically.  I'll post a picture of it sometime when I am home and thinking about it.

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Instead of cosmetically CHALLANGED you could call it patinawink

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