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January 22, 2008
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Good Afternoon Guys,
I'm on the Board of Directors of my gun club and at the January meeting it was voted upon to prohibit the use of bump-fire / slide-fire stocks. Here is the verbiage that went out in our last newsletter:
There are devices on the market that will modify rifles to fire automatically either by inertia or a cam operating the trigger. Even though these devices are not restricted (yet) under the NFA, the weapons are difficult to control and the Board of Directors has decided to BAN their use on all ranges. With the sentiment about guns running high, we do not need to have a incident on our ranges. If you violate these rules, your membership will be immediately suspended.
I will be honest and said I was not familiar with these devices as I'm not verse on the AR Platform so I voted with the recommendation of majority. Our club does permit the use of Class III weapons after obtaining a special permit from the Board.
Unfortunately I'm doing my research on the back-end but can always bring a motion to allow the use of these devices. So here are a few questions that come to mind:
- Should a gun club prohibit the use of these devices or any legal devices for that matter.
- If you feel they should be allow do you feel that users of these devices should have to obtain a permit to use them the same as Class III users do?
- Does you answers above take into account the impact to the club if an incident occurred on club property with one of these devices.
Please feel free to share you thoughts and don't feel you need to hold back as I want to fully understand this issue.
Thanks, Jody
Should use of bump fire stocks be prohibited on club propertiy?
- By Permit Only
- Yes
- No
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Dans Club
February 22, 2009
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I've used bump fire stocks and they take some getting used to. I believe the "by permit only" is the best way to address this issue. They take a bit of getting used to and first time users often have difficulty making the weapon cycle correctly.
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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July 2, 2011
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Like Ron, I've used them (although only twice) and they do take some getting used to.
I voted yes on this poll for the following reasons.
Our club is a self policing entity. No range officers. All members have keys to the facility. Eeveryone has taken the safety/rules/etiquette courses and is on their own. We are expected to follow the rules and to see to it that all the rules are followed. Full auto is not allowed, so some discussion has ensued about these bump fire stocks.
My 2 cents was essentially this;
"Full auto takes a level of training that most of us (civilian shooters) do not posses. Since our range(s) are self policing, most of us (civilian shooters) do not have the expertise to judge safe/unsafe use of these devices. The bump fire/slide fire stocks are full auto emulators. Since we do not allow full auto, we should not allow them without revisiting the full no auto rule."
What I didn't say is that we already have a small minority of members (not yet identified) and/or their guests who regularly put rounds through the overheads and baffles on all of the ranges. Those mouth-breathers with full auto scare the crap out of me! 
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February 11, 2010
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brucertx said
Like Ron, I've used them (although only twice) and they do take some getting used to.I voted no on this poll for the following reasons.
Our club is a self policing entity. No range officers. All members have keys to the facility. Eeveryone has taken the safety/rules/etiquette courses and is on their own. We are expected to follow the rules and to see to it that all the rules are followed. Full auto is not allowed, so some discussion has ensued about these bump fire stocks.
My 2 cents was essentially this;
"Full auto takes a level of training that most of us (civilian shooters) do not posses. Since our range(s) are self policing, most of us (civilian shooters) do not have the expertise to judge safe/unsafe use of these devices. The bump fire/slide fire stocks are full auto emulators. Since we do not allow full auto, we should not allow them without revisiting the full no auto rule."
What I didn't say is that we already have a small minority of members (not yet identified) and/or their guests who regularly put rounds through the overheads and baffles on all of the ranges. Those mouth-breathers with full auto scare the crap out of me!
Bruce, a "No" means you would allow. The poll asked if you would "prohibit"
I may be wrong but you may have made a mistake on your vote, at least that's the
way your post reads.
I also agree with everything in your post and I voted Yes. I have bump fired many
rounds without this type stock and been around others who have done the bumpfire
thing and It has no business at a public or club range. I am sure we can all agree
that control is an important factor when at the range. Bump firing is not a controlled
rate of fire.
-Blacktop
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Dans Club
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July 2, 2011
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Well, dummy me. You are right, I misread it. Should have voted yes.
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January 22, 2008
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Thanks for the input guys I appreciate it. Our ranges are also self-policed, seems like a good portion of our monthly board meeting is spent talking about the destruction that occurs and the fact that other members don't want to get involved!
Bruce, I have deleted your vote so if you want you can vote again.
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April 20, 2010
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At our club, you must pass a handgun qualification in presence of a rangemaster before shooting a handgun on any range. Perhaps your club could come up with something similar for bump fire, epecially since you do allow class 3 users.
Our outdoor ranges already have a 'no rapid fire, 1 second between shots' posted, so it wouldnt be an issue here. Basically our ranges are for target practice and controlled precision fire, not blowing away ammo. Also the club is very encroached by development making control mandatory if you look past the 100yd range you can actually see houses!
-Lonwolf
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Dans Club
December 4, 2011
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Geez, I hope they have good backstops.
My club has a no full auto restriction and also no 50 BMG. Also supposed to only shoot lead ammo at swinging plates.
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