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December 26, 2010
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THEY EXIST!!! I almost bought it but at $1,167 I would have to sell something else first. It felt great in my hand. Very nice balance. Fairly heavy double action pull, smooth but heavy. I'm guessing 13 to 14 lbs. Very light single action pull. Black ramp front sight. No outline on the rear sight. Black rubber grip, very similar to LB's Gripper style. Metal finish is very good. It is still brushed but very smooth. Fit was excellent. S/N 100067. The shop just got it yesterday and put it out today. They have no idea when they might get another. (The advantage this shop has is that the CZ USA president and the head sales guy shoot there regularly.) Comes in a blue plastic box with wrench and gap gauge. On the box label, 715 was not to be seen. It was DWR357-6. Also in the box was a cable lock. And the thing that probably saved me from buying it was the owners manual. (I was looking for a model designation which wasn't to be found.) The back of the manual listed other DW models, the 22 and 722, the 22 Magnum, the 32 Magnum and the 32-20. (I can't remember if there were stainless models of the others. By that time I was so excited I was close to hyper-ventilating.) The shop didn't know if that was an indication of things to come. Now that could be an inadvertent slip. Or maybe, just maybe, it shows a desire of models to come. Please, CZ please? 
Hmmm? Should I sell either my 715 or my 740 and pick this one up tomorrow morning? I may be doing my taxes and looking at my coin collection tonight. (I'm dreaming thinking there is a $1,000 in those coins but is raging right now.)
At $1,167 it is pricy but it is beautiful, an elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
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January 24, 2009
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Man, don't ya just looove and the affect it has on an otherwise rational psyche?? 
Yes, I despise it, too.
Well, as a chronic naysayer in regards to the new DW revolver, I must lay myself bare here…I didn't think I would ever see the day. I didn't think that anyone would ever see one pop up in a gun store. There, I said it.
Okay, so now that I've gotten that out of my system (I may freak out myself, if I see one in person), does it in fact look like the prototype that Harly showed us from the 2011 SHOT show? I must admit that the prototype does pique my interest, and I'm curious as to whether they went forward with the overall design.
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May 2, 2009
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I don't care how nice it is-- over a grand ....? No way -- I held it at the NRA convention, good enought for me at that price.
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December 26, 2010
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CF, yes it is very similar to Harley's pic with the exception that the finish is very nice. It's brushed but it has a shine to it and I looked closely for any grind marks under the finish. There were none on #1000067. And the fit of the side plate was excellent, straight and parallel lines between it and the frame. The balance of it struck me. Neither muzzle heavy nor light. Man it felt good. I'm seriously thinking of selling one of my motorcycles.
Shoot, yes it is expensive and no doubt that anybody who buys one will suffer some depreciation for five to ten years but Smiffs aren't finished near this well and Rugers are tough guns but they're no Dan's. Yeah, the rationale side says $1,167?? Are you crazy?? But people spend ridiculous $$ on MB's and BMW's and this is a beautiful gun. 
If my wife is smart, tonight she should, well I'll keep this a family rated post, or I likely will be buying it tomorrow.
August 28, 2009
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If they make the 2.5, 4, and 8 in. shrouds in the same "new" profile, I'll probably do it. But when I was told they were going to continue to make the "old style" accessory shrouds I pulled the plug. If' I'm spending that kind of money I at least want a matched set. Did the box have slots to store the extra shrouds?
April 8, 2011
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Well I"m amazed that one exists. But for little more than that you could buy a whole 715 v pac!
February 11, 2010
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Good to hear at least one has been released into the wild.
Sad that such an average Joe model/caliber can not be afforded
by the average Joe ! 
CZ's strategy must be in the mind of high price makes it better,
why not ? it's worked in the 1911 market for the last 10 years.
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May 17, 2010
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I am shocked that CZ has this out and this is the first only word we have on it.
Soap Box, Ballot Box, Ammo Box
in that order.
4 Monson Model 15's
1 Palmer FB 15
1 Rossi 357 Model 92 (lever)
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August 28, 2009
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Blacktop said:
Good to hear at least one has been released into the wild.
Sad that such an average Joe model/caliber can not be afforded
by the average Joe !
CZ's strategy must be in the mind of high price makes it better,
why not ? it's worked in the 1911 market for the last 10 years.
-Blacktop
Blacktop – that was exactly the strategy that Alice Poluchova detailed in a personal letter to me back in Jan. 2010. The plan from the beginning of the acquisition of DW was to establish the brand in the 1911 market and then bring back the revolvers.
September 1, 2010
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I sure look forward to seeing one in person and being able to hold it in my hand, but over a thousand bucks is too pricy for my wallet. Or to put it another way my wife would make a soprano out of me when she found out.
December 26, 2010
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Harly, the store dude didn't know if they were going to offer pacs. The box did not have slots for extra barrel assemblies but it was easily large enough. If they do bring back the pac, I hope they bring back a decent case for it.
I'm still stunned that the back of that new owners manual referenced other models. If they don't intend to do that, they are going to look awfully stupid. Maybe I'm dreaming too much.
Blacktop, Adam, yes it is expensive but the one I saw has a much nicer level of fit and finish than any Smiff or Ruger I have ever seen. If they make them all like that, the visual impression alone is that of a better made gun. (Not to start any my gun is better than your gun wars here.) Success will depend on how well they continue to project the high quality image. IMO, they could help it by including at least a white stripe up the middle of the front ramp and out-lining the back sight. Maybe a fiber optic front sight or a patridge with a tritium dot. Still the front sight is obviously high quality. And if I were them, I would be talking with LB. (That discussion would include helping him find a way for his grip making to be more than a labor of love.) The black grip is nice but nowhere near as classy as what LB makes. They also need to work on that trigger. The smoothness is nice but it is just a little heavy in DA. Maybe it will lighten up with some use.
I've calmed down some since last night but I still want it. Realistically I should buy an AR and reloading equipment first. I'll have entry AR $$ in a month or two and my reloading equipment fund is still growing.
Off to a gunshow now.
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December 4, 2011
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WE NEED PICS!
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I'm curious as to why no announcement was made at the Shot show. The timing of release of the first CZ DW revolver to coincide with the Shot Show would have been an obvious marketing tool. I can't believe CZ didn't see it that way. I agree with the price being too high to attract the masses. Perhaps they are trying to do this on a semi custom shop basis, like Colt did with the Python/Anaconda in later years. Either that or they want the rerelease of the revolver to flop so that they can say 'look we tried and nobody was iterested so we're going to just build the popular 1911'. I hope not but I don't know.
I will have a tought time spending north of 1K on a gun with a single barrel length and no pack.
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August 28, 2009
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95XL883 - It won't be offered in a full pack. The extra barrels are available if the customer wants them. The gun was supposed to be shipped in a box that would accommodate the extra barrels - I was just wondering if they gave it a nice box but it doesn't sound like it.
Scorpio - the release was announced last year just before the 2011 SHOT show. It was supposed to be available in the 3rd quarter of last year but is running a little late, which is common in the industry. What puzzles me is that the gun is down from the website and from what I understand was not displayed at the 2012 SHOT show. This leads me to believe that this possibly might be the only run of them and after all the bad press about it's pricing over the past year it wouldn't surprise me. If that's the case then everyone can kiss their chances of another caliber down the road goodbye. Currently there are no plans for additional calibers down the road.
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April 20, 2010
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Looks like the new Pistol has made it to Gunbroker, not much of an ad though, not even a real pic just the same old computer image we've seen.
If the new Dan Wesson is on the market, CZ must really believe in under advertising products.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272516070
"The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the Wolf does not perform in the circus"
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December 4, 2011
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I called and talked to the store that is running this auction. I asked if they actually had the gun and he said they in fact have two. He said the case has spaces for additional BAs but it only comes with the 6" right now. He said the finish is beautiful and quality is high.
I certainly hope CZ steps up the ads for this or it may go almost unnoticed. I really want to see DW kept alive and for new calibers and options to come to the market. It would be cool to see a 454 Casull or a 500Mag version someday.
Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
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January 22, 2008
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This is just my opinion so it's not worth much but... I believe CZ has to try to position Dan Wesson as the maker of a premium double action revolver much as they have with their 1911's. Their never going to be able to compete with the likes of Ruger and S&W because they are a low volume manufacture. I also believe the revolvers that hopefully will be rolling out of Norwich will be superior to S&W, Ruger, etc.
My biggest gripe is that if they will only be producing a limited number of revolvers and asking a premium price is to over it in a caliber other than 357 Mag. To me the 15-2/715 is by far the most common and easily had of all DW's and at the lowest price so why reintroduce that one first?
If they were introducing the large frame in some caliber that is not easily had I would be ponying up some money well I would after I send a check to Uncle Barry! #@*$!
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March 2, 2008
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I think the dream here is to get a .357 in mainstream production, and use that as a springboard to expand the caliber offerings. As the premiere "Nay Sayer" on DWF that this would actually happen, I'm glad to see it.
I'm not buying one at even half that price, but it's still good to see that "It Lives"
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October 14, 2010
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With CZ not even showing the 715 on their website just shows they aren't trying to market/advertise the revolver. I haven't looked at many gun mags lately. Have you guys seen this promoted at all other than the 2011 shot show?
Revolver comps I have seen on the outdoor channel are always smiff. 1 comp had 1 ruger entered. The rest smiff. I'm not a comp shooter nor do I follow them. This is just what I have seen on that channel. If looking to promote a new product line why not sponsor a shooter for some advertisement/promotion. Especially in circle that is monopolized. Advertise, advertise, advertise.
For argument sake I would think a smiff 627PC would be comparable to a new 715. The money is close and you can't easily change a barrel or gap for that matter.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272569703
I am a fan of T/C's and have a lot of their stuff but I think the new stuff is overpriced. $800 for a muzzleloader? Really? They advertise the crap out of them so people want them.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272514962
Just my thoughts.
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January 24, 2009
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Hoss has a good point. Some manufacturers go above & beyond with their advertising campaign, in hopes of reaching the top of the sales heap. Me, I usually view this flagrant "look at me" advertising as just that...a pitiful attempt to polish a turd. IMO, Smiff has sold their soul in the past 20~ish years, and T/C isn't far behind. Taurus, being the "other Smiff", always saturates the ads in the gun rags & likewise, seems to continue to ride the wave...thanks to the uneducated masses out there.
With DW/CZ's odd revolver comeback, if the intent is indeed a springboard effect by getting the name out there on "the down-low" initially...well then, who am I to to scoff at such an idea? I'm surely no marketing genius (my paycheck will attest), so maybe there truly is a method to the madness after all? If this is the plan, I genuinely hope it works...I hope that the next new DW revolver to hit the market will be one to blow the socks (and minds) of the competition! I believe that a step like that, may indeed end up being something that "corporate CZ" never even planned on!
Here's to a continued, yet guardedly optimistic future for the DW revolver.
Will I buy one? A few months ago, I was hard set on NO (mostly due to the absurd BS being spewn from CZ last year), but today, I must admit that I'm weakening. Maybe when one of our members posts that first group of
, that may push me over the edge. 
After all, my resilience does know it's bounds these days.
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