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January 22, 2008
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Max-CT, I think your situation is a little more unique. For those of us who, for profession reasons, find ourselves living in the big city, we need to take a little more precaution. Both of my safes are bolted to the floor with 4 concrete anchors each.
If you think about the value of the firearms (and other valuables) in your safe, the safe itself becomes comparatively inexpensive.
FloridaDWCollector, I would love to convert the large hall closet in my house to a safe room; line it with concrete blocks, reinforce the ceiling and replace the closet door with a safe door. The wife won't go for it though.
-Wayne
January 17, 2010
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Liberty good to go. Heard bad stories about the Cannons. there is a neat youtube vid of 2 guys breaking into one in 15min with hand tools. There are more expensive/better safes out there, but I am a value oreinted guy. I have the franklin, which is up there in fire rating due to the thicker steel and the insulation. Some brands just keep adding insulation.
If ya want I can write you instructions on how to move yer safe. My dealer showed me some tricks and I installed mine by myself (800+ pounds). No steps though.
Yes, we are careful also about internet posts about security issues. There have been cases of people being burgularized due to facebook posts and such. And also the fact that stuff posted on forums and such is searchable for quite some time after it is posted.
Overall I have a good security plan both physical and operational, to include how we conduct ourselves and also contingency plans for different types of situations.
I too kicked around the cannon idea for a while. Then I went to a local dealer (I love local for more reasons than just local economics) He was able to hook me up with something a couple models up from what I was looking at for the same money.
There is a saying about how you can only slow a thief down.....
"experience is the hardest teacher, the test comes before the lesson"
January 4, 2011
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wdelack said:
Mox-CT, I think your situation is a little more unique. For those of us who, for profession reasons, find ourselves living in the big city, we need to take a little more precaution. Both of my safes are bolted to the floor with 4 concrete anchors each.
If you think about the value of the firearms (and other valuables) in your safe, the safe itself becomes comparatively inexpensive.
FloridaDWCollector, I would love to convert the large hall closet in my house to a safe room; line it with concrete blocks, reinforce the ceiling and replace the closet door with a safe door. The wife won't go for it though.
-Wayne
I'm not trying to start a urinating contest here. I just think as resposible gun-owners, parents, grandparents, and citizens we should do all we can to protect our property, our loved-ones and our 2nd Amendment right by keeping OUR guns out of the wrong hands. I commend everyone who takes gun ownership beyond a right and considers it a privilege to live in a country like ours
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And to get back on point, the new safe I am awaiting delivery on is a Liberty Lincoln series. They seem to get good reviews and are moderately priced compared to the real designer brands. My main concern here in FLA is not as much a home invasion as a hurricane taking have of my house and my safes along with it.
And as far as my wife goes
, I do better begging for forgiveness than asking for permission.
February 11, 2010
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FDWC, lol no [Image Can Not Be Found]contest 
, just a discussion of opionions.
Growning up in my youth the back door was unlocked at night and
the keys were left in the cars. Needless to say I never thought I'd be
running home invasion exercises or weekly holster drills when I started
my own family.
Your walls can never be to thick brother, If that what you need, keep the guard !
I hear ya on the 
mine's gotta look that burns through welding goggles !
-Blacktop
January 22, 2008
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I grew up in far southwest Virginia and we never locked our doors, etc either. My uncle lives in a pretty secluded area only he and his brother's wife (his brother was killed in a mining accident at 23 and she remarried) own houses on that road.
Well my cousin and his worthless half brother broke in and stole the guns out of the gun cabinet. So often times its family you have to worry more about than anything!
Needless to say I hope I never run into that cousin again, worthless piece of .... well better self moderator now. 
January 4, 2011
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Jody, Never had a relative rip me off, but had a room mate steal a gun and pawn it (back in the 70s nobody did much checking.)
I just try to make the point with every gun owner or potential gun owner that we are responsible for doing everything we can to safeguard or guns (and other possesions) from theft or accidental loss. The antis have a hay day any time they can blame anything on us. No reason to make that easier for them.
And yes, I have reenforced doors and motion sensors in my garage to help keep my cars, motorcycles and tools where they belong - in my garage.
When I joined the ARMY the DI told us a lock only kept an honest man honest - a theif will find a way to steal you stuff.
September 26, 2010
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They delivered my new safe yesterday! I went to Lowes online and ordered a Liberty Fatboy Jr for $1200.
Nice safe, reviews are good, much better than the Cannon. Thanks for the info.
January 17, 2011
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FloridaDWCollector said:
DWA_Midwest said:
I think the most important aspects are the number and diameter of the active bolts, the ga. thickness of the exterior body, layers of fire protectant and fire protection (minutes and temp.).
I know what its like to buy on a budget, but sometimes ya gotta ask yourself how much is what your protecting worth and what, if any of it can be replaced.
total agreement! 
May 3, 2011
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It's a shame we have to put our guns in a safe. But it's to expensive not to. Good luck on choosing the right safe. I have one that was designed to hold 60 guns. My next one would be a key pad type.
January 8, 2011
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I just bought another gun safe recently. My first was overloaded. I looked on Craigslist and found a deal. I bought a Big Horn that list for $1,229 on the internet plus shipping. I bought it for $650 and burned $50 in fuel to go get it. It was a divorce sale. It weighs 700 lbs and has a fire rating of 1400 degrees for 75 minutes.
My question for the day is: If you could regulate the relative humidity in your safe what % would you choose? And what products do you find adequate to protect your guns from rust? Are the electric "rod" products any good?
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November 17, 2008
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I have heard somewhere 50% humidity is preferred. I can't comment on which product is better or not. Sounds like you got a deal.
LB
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