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October 26, 2010
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Hello everyone,
So me and the Mrs. have been talking gun safes in anticipation of the arrival of our first weapon. Mind you we have a two year old daughter and a five year old nephew that often comes over.
The only thing we seem to agree on is the size, something small enough to hold my weapon and possibly some documents.
Our agreements on it is eclipsed by our disagreements:
I want quick access, in order to protect my family I want to have a set routine I can practice, from when threat is detected to locked and ready. I want to practice this often so when its actually needed I want it to happen like muscle memory. Being goal oriented, I want to have a time in seconds from threat detection to locked and ready, a time I can improve on over time. Of course I want something my kid cant get into but to me a keypad system will do the job.
The Mrs. is adamant on a fingerprint scanner, in her mind thats the safest way to keep the weapon away from tiny hands. She doesnt care about failure rates to open the safe or the fact that I showed her a video of a fingerprint safe that was opened when the guy placed his dog paw over it. She doesnt care how long it takes to get to the firearm, if it was up to her shed wrap the damn thing with chains and loads of padlocks.
WHat are your thoughts on the subject? Are children a factor on your decision?
Also Ive been looking for a gun case to transport the firearm to the range when I go, any thoughts?
As usual I appreciate the feedback.
Sincerely,
Rod
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" – George Washington
January 22, 2008
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Hey Rod,
This is a good topic for discussion. I have a little girl that is 3 and this is something I think about as well. Currently I do not use a safe for my HD gun but it is stored out of reach (and sight) of her. However if I was going to get a small safe I would want some I could access quickly as you stated. I would probably go with something like this over the finger print reader type:
Now for a case to take you gun to the range in… I personally use a large range bag. This allows me to get my gun (usually several) and all the ammo and accessories I need for the outing in one bag. My bag is similar to this one…
Hope this helps some…
October 26, 2010
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Jody,
Thanks for the reply. Trust me when I say this, the options are limitless.
Im thinking if the gun arrives prior to me making a decision Ill have to go with the Winchester:
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The reason being it locks after 3 tries and does an audible alarm, plus they sell them at my local gun shop.
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" – George Washington
October 26, 2010
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Update:
Just came across "trigger locks", I wonder if I kept the weapon in a nightstand drawer with the trigger lock it would be safe from my daughter.
Im not worried about a break-in and the gun stolen, as I can put the gun in our valuables safe (which takes entirely too long to open) or with me when I get my CCW.
I wonder how effective trigger locks are against tiny hands….and how quick they are to open in the time of need.
Sincerely,
Rod
UPDATE: In the few seconds I read about trigger locks it already presents as a bad idea. Most gun locks say to only use them on an unloaded gun. Doesnt look like Ill be using them.
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that's good" – George Washington
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November 17, 2008
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I use a small push button type lock box for the ole HD gun. Plus its out of sight and out of mind for the little ones. The big safe has the rest. As for convincing the wife, good luck with that one.
LB
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February 28, 2009
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My little boy is now 31 years old. However, he now has a 15 month old son and is using a safe like the one shown at the top of Jody's post.
I agree that a range bag is better than a case, this is mine.
It's made by Bagmaster. We're going to the range tonight and here's a listing of the contents:
Two amplified headsets with extra batteries.
Two pairs of shooting gloves (for when we take the FA .500WE - not tonight).
One eye patch for my wife to prevent her from using her left eye.
Two SS DW wrenches (Lg and Sm) by Eric with complete pilot sets.
One .002 original style DW barrel gap shim.
One Wildey .475 Magnum with 10 inch barrel.
Two 50 round boxes of .475 Wildey Magnum ammo.
One Kimber Stainless Raptor II in .45ACP.
Two 50 round boxes of .45ACP ammo.
One DW 715 VH8.
One 100 round box of .357 ammo.
One DW 722M VH8.
Two 50 round boxes of .22WMR ammo.
It's a bit of a tight fit but it'll work just fine.
There are going to be a lot of dead DW armadillo's tonight.
-Mike
February 20, 2008
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Personally, I say - Lock it up out of sight - until your child is old enough to be instructed/educated about gun safety, by you. As for your wife, get a safe with a digital keypad...two seconds its open. Get one that will hold your gun(s) and documents...not a strong box, but a safe....you will be pleased down the road.
Regards, Photo
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October 28, 2009
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if all you want to do is keep the kiddies out, take a look at book safes. harbor freight has them. they use a 3 number combination lock. just line up 2 numbers and leave it that way. roll up the 1 number and it's open. it's secure enough to keep a small child out, provided they don't figure out how to pry open the door with a screw driver...
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January 24, 2009
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For anyone thinking of using a trigger lock, get one of the more expensive ones that use a key. Don't get this kind...
My boys got this thing off my pellet rifle back when they were 12 or 13 years old, by using a couple nails.
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February 28, 2009
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I'd like to have a couple of those. One of my Li'l Dan's came wikth the key but no lock. The other didn't have either piece. There are holes in my kits.
-Mike
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