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March 2, 2008
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Not accidental, IMO
http://www.kentucky.com/2013/04/30/2621458/5-year-old-boy-accidentally-shoots.html
Negligent storage and access to a firearm. I don't imagine this family needs any more "punishment" but firearms not secured and stored properly, especially with children in the household, is disaster waiting to occur.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
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February 22, 2009
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Responsibility and safety are paramount. A tragedy, for certain.
Prayers for that family.
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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January 24, 2009
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A little common sense on the parent's part would have gone a long way, to put it mildly.
That's a sad deal.
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March 27, 2009
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Very sad,makes us all stop and think! Most of the crickets I have seen have a bolt lock, though not sure if one in chamber would let the gun fire or not. Still sad all the way around!
March 20, 2013
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ugh...horrible to hear. I didn't like the locks so I bought a safe as soon as I felt my kids could pick up a gun. Then I schooled them never to point it at anybody! I let them play with the guns sure, but only after I get them out of the safe, safety check them and remind them that they'll get a slap upside the head if I catch them pointing it at anybody whether by accident or on purpose. They usually end up facing a corner making "pew! pew!" noises. Not much fun for them but at least they respect the tool. I'm proud to say they have safer gun handling skills then some adults I know.
If you have a gun in the house with kids I feel its important for the kids to be able to handle the guns. For one it makes the gun less mysterious to them and kills the "curious" itch so they are less inclined to go searching for the gun on their own. They know where it is, they know they just have to ask dad. But it's also a great way for them to perfect safe gun-handling skills before they go out into the woods and it also gets them into something both you and your kid can be passionate about. However, if you have a gun in the house with kids, common sense dictates that kids will be kids and accidents can and do happen. You, as the adult, are to mitigate any chances of accidents from occurring. I can respect your right to own a firearm but I expect you to be a responsible adult and secure them properly as well. Sorry, but I don't see the point of giving a 5 year old kid full access to a firearm and accompanying ammunition.
sorry for the long post, stories like this makes me want to 
especially when kids are involved and these accidents can be so easily prevented.
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March 27, 2009
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Well said and take the time to post anytime! Now with grandchildren about I have rethought my storage system for safety of all!
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January 24, 2009
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This story really irritates me the more I think about it.
I agree with ZZE's thoughts on letting the kids handle the firearm enough to get the "curios itch" out of their system. That way you only have to deal with the "need to play with it" part (thinking of myself as a kid).
When my kids were little, I had a S&W 29 and an AMT AutoMag in the house...and no gun safe. I worried (okay my wife was more worried) that the kids would get their hands on the guns, so along with trigger locks, my remedy was to partially disassemble them during storage. I removed the cylinder from the Smiff & removed the slide stop from the AMT. I was pretty confident that they wouldn't be able to figure out how to reassemble them on their own. Any unfired ammo was stored way back in a corner of the garage, far out of sight. It would have taken them weeks to find it.
With this story, a little common sense on the part of the parents could have easily prevented the needless death of that little girl. I place the full blame squarely on the parents & I assume that they do too, and will probably think of this every day for the rest of their lives. It's just a sad, needless thing that could have been so easily prevented.
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March 2, 2008
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At the time my kids were growing up there was one gun in the house, and I was not shooting at all at this time. This gun was stored with a bunch of other stuff in the basement. My method of securing this revolver was to lock a long shank padlock through one chamber. The padlock key was stored in a tool box in the garage. The ammunition was in an ammo can in a different box.
Now that we have a granddaughter running around the house, the only gun not in the safe is in a MicroVault on my nightstand. Takes a correct sequence of four choices on a "four finger" touchpad, which mechanically locks out after three incorrect attempts. I don't have a rifle sized safe, so my AR lower/stock has been disassembled from the upper and is stored in the safe.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
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I have 2 older style glass front rifle cases that have moved with me a few times. No security there at all. So I made up a coated 3/8" cable. Then I drilled holes through the sides and threaded the cable through the trigger guards and around the back. Secured with a big honking combo lock. It's not safe type secure, but someone would have to do some serious work to them.
Besides, I just like to look at them sometimes... 
To the paranoid people who check behind shower curtains for murderers:
if you find one...what's your plan?
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