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December 7, 2020
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(UPDATED with New reply on 06/28) Looking for a preferably New Dan Wesson 9mm. Requirements are basically that same size/weight of the Glock 17, or CZ 75.
Only own a Glock 19. But I shoot more consistently with my son's G17 or CZ75. I want a comparable Dan Wesson
Recommendations??? (Don't say:"Practice more with your G19!" or "go buy a Glock or CZ")
March 16, 2021
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I dont have Glocks, but I'd guess a Glock is a lot lighter than a CZ75 which is all steel.
I have a DW Pointman in 9mm. Fantastic gun. But not a carry gun. Big and heavy.
If I were to carry a DW I'd look into an aluminum frame model like the Vigil CCO.
It all depends on how you want to use the gun.
DWF Supporters
July 12, 2020
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My Guardian is an alloy frame, lighter weight, commander. Very dependable and more than accurate enough for self defense. I am sure it is a little larger in size and heavier than a Glock (don't know never had one). The ECO is a shorter 3.5" barrel aluminum frame (discontinued tho) and the TCP which is a 4" barrel alum frame. Never shot either of these so just going by size/weight for a more comfortable carry.
August 8, 2016
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Love my DW PM9.
Buddy of mine has a PM9 Carry model which he likes.
October 2, 2021
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Hi. I've run a 19 in IDPA for years. Have had a 17 and a 34 as well, but always preferred the 19. It provided better transitions from target to target. Give up a tad on long range accuracy for better control up close. I've also used Springfield 1911s in 9mm. While I have had 5" models, my favorite is a 4" Champion.
Decided to join the Dan Wesson tribe. Wanted a Pointman or Specialist but could not find one, at a price I could afford. Bought a Guardian. I'm so glad I did. Fantastic accuracy and great hand-ability. Tried a friend's PM later and rejected it as soon as I picked it up. Too much weight and to awkward - for me. Great gun, but not what I was used to.
Drawback on the Guardian is the bobtail eliminates adding a magwell, but I have gotten used to that. Not a fan of the white dot front sight, but they sell a fiber optic replacement. It does NOT come with pipes (DUMB) and it takes a smaller pipe than they first told me, but it is the standard smaller size. While I have replaced Glock sights all the time, this is more complicated and I had my local store install it for me. Good choice. It blazes in the day, like an optic dot.
You did not mention is this is for carry or not. I love the gun and prefer it for competition. For concealed carry, I go back to Glock - a 26.
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December 7, 2020
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jaykelley said
Hi. I've run a 19 in IDPA for years. Have had a 17 and a 34 as well, but always preferred the 19. It provided better transitions from target to target. Give up a tad on long range accuracy for better control up close. I've also used Springfield 1911s in 9mm. While I have had 5" models, my favorite is a 4" Champion.Decided to join the Dan Wesson tribe. Wanted a Pointman or Specialist but could not find one, at a price I could afford. Bought a Guardian. I'm so glad I did. Fantastic accuracy and great hand-ability. Tried a friend's PM later and rejected it as soon as I picked it up. Too much weight and to awkward - for me. Great gun, but not what I was used to.
Drawback on the Guardian is the bobtail eliminates adding a magwell, but I have gotten used to that. Not a fan of the white dot front sight, but they sell a fiber optic replacement. It does NOT come with pipes (DUMB) and it takes a smaller pipe than they first told me, but it is the standard smaller size. While I have replaced Glock sights all the time, this is more complicated and I had my local store install it for me. Good choice. It blazes in the day, like an optic dot.
You did not mention is this is for carry or not. I love the gun and prefer it for competition. For concealed carry, I go back to Glock - a 26.
I think if I were to carry I might use the 19. I recently got to handle the PM9. It is heavy, but felt great. Looking for others to handle to try to get an idea of what I am after.
Dans Club
December 7, 2020
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So, I bought a Pre-CZ PM-9-S for my first DW 1911. Possibly a 2002. When it gets here (next week?), I am going to want to replace the Pachmayr Grips likely with wood or composite. Although DW Logo wood grips would be nice too.
First the ignorant question: How do I determine what grips fit? Do any of the CZ current 1911 factory grips fit this?
Also would like to replace front blade sight with fiber optic sight. Keith @ DW, says no current 1911 offerings will swap out on this model.
Anyone have upgrade 
experience with the Pre-CZ PM-9-S?
DWF Supporters
July 12, 2020
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Bad news the front sight is a proprietary cut. Dave Severns used to make a fiber optic sight for these but that was long ago and he no longer does any smithing work. Any standard 1911 government grips will work on your PM9. I am not a huge fan of hump for the Ellison sight and they were known for breakage of the pivot roll pin. They are a very soft shooting and accurate gun. Mine is a two digit on the serial number and is dated 2-26-2003. I don't think there were that many of these made and pretty sure they were all made around the same time. Here's mine.
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December 7, 2020
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605Dart said
Bad news the front sight is a proprietary cut. Dave Severns used to make a fiber optic sight for these but that was long ago and he no longer does any smithing work. Any standard 1911 government grips will work on your PM9. I am not a huge fan of hump for the Ellison sight and they were known for breakage of the pivot roll pin. They are a very soft shooting and accurate gun. Mine is a two digit on the serial number and is dated 2-26-2003. I don't think there were that many of these made and pretty sure they were all made around the same time. Here's mine..
Those are grips I would put back on, if I could find a matched pair. My SER# is 0010X, so a few behind yours
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