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March 2, 2008
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After 141 years, Marlin Firearms finally wraps it up in CT
http://www.ctnow.com/business/hc-marlin-firearms-20110401,0,4596662.story
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
October 26, 2008
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Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long. Wonder when Colt will finally hang it up?
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February 9, 2009
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Many of our industrial customers from PA are closing and moving south as well. It seems to me that the southern states in general are making it much more attractive to operate corporate business in their states. The political regime in our state in the last reign has turned many of the industrial businesss away. Our state cannot seem to comprehend that you cannot overtax an employer to make up for poor spending habits. That is my take on the situation, for what it is worth.
SMF
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January 30, 2011
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Sounds like California. I, and so many others, can't understand what the political types are thinking. No jobs, no income tax, do the math!
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October 14, 2010
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SMF - From another PA resident I agree totally. It's a real shame.
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November 14, 2009
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Good shot ! said:
Sounds like California. I, and so many others, can't understand what the political types are thinking. No jobs, no income tax, do the math!
What do you need an income tax for??? We did without one until Lowell Weiker took over and ruined Connecticut!!!
Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich
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March 27, 2009
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Investment bankers and the sell out of America! 
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April 20, 2010
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Supermagfan, as an employee in heavy industry, I can say you are right on, man, right on.
-Lonwolf
"The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the Wolf does not perform in the circus"
March 21, 2011
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Wow that sucks, hate to hear that!
-Jordan-
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January 22, 2008
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Looks like Remington has been given several tax advantages to move the Marlin and Bushmaster operations. $2.4 million from NY and $4.75 million in KY. I would have to guess CT didn't have the political will to keep Marlin/Remington in operation there 
I am curious to know how all the gun hating NY liberals feel about $2.4 million tax dollars going to a firearms manufacturing company. 
-Wayne
October 13, 2009
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I agree, a business can handle only so much tax and regulation wise. I am all for low business taxes and getting rid of ridiculous regulations so businesses can thrive!
It is interesting some of the work is going to NY, not exactly a business friendly state from what I understand.
Eric
February 11, 2010
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Could be worse....Winchester....
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May 17, 2010
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Dern yall scared me.. I thought you meant they were gonna stop making them.. hopefully this is just a move.
As for business and politics... yeah we certainly come into a messed up system. I dont mind, states and cities creating/keeping a business freindly or even business neutral environment. But I think its gotten a good bit beyond that. State of MS took private lands (by force) to GIVE to private industry (Nissan). To be sure lots of jobs and better paying then what we are use to ( lowest paid workers in the nation.. by far). But at what price? and to what end. Now each state is throwing money to attract an ever shrinking pool of industries. As for guns and that industry, I think MS is about as pro gun as it gets, and dern near untouchable (yeah!!). Just too many hunters (again yeah!). We did get a new ammo plant, so thats cool.
I think it is bad when a business (feels they must) decide to make a change based on politics of the area. It bad for the area they leave, and often its not that great for the place they move to. There is a cost associated with the move, and thats just lost productivity.. for the country as a whole. I am all for competition, but not with my tax dollars.
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November 14, 2009
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wdelack said:
Looks like Remington has been given several tax advantages to move the Marlin and Bushmaster operations. $2.4 million from NY and $4.75 million in KY. I would have to guess CT didn't have the political will to keep Marlin/Remington in operation there
I am curious to know how all the gun hating NY liberals feel about $2.4 million tax dollars going to a firearms manufacturing company.
-Wayne
Now you are starting to see the tip of the iceberg. For example, Connecticut gave millions of tax cuts to Stanley who greatfully accepted them, then when the tax cuts ran out, moved out of state anyway. And we offered millions to other businesses as well.
PINETOR -
Don't forget the Kelo vs New London, CT. Yes New London took a whole neighborhood from private residences and gave it to Pfizer who built a large research facility and staffed it with foreigheners. When the Tax breaks ran out, they left. So the residents that lost their homes to eminent domain were slapped in the face, the whole town was pissed on and told it was only rain. The building and area is vacent, no taxes being brought in, no revenue for the town, just a big cost for upkeep.
http://www.theday.com/article/20100109/OP03/301099940
Oh, BTW, Pratt & Whitney wants to leave also.
http://www.theday.com/article/20110108/BIZ03/301089937
Oh, also the state government wants to leeve a $330,000,000 tax on the place I work at and my company says if approved, it will close it down. Just think, we deregulated the electric industry in Connecticut and the stupid legislators think we can't close it down. It's a profit private company not governed by the Department of Public Utilities. Add $330,000,000 to a yearly operating cost, and it gets passed on to the consumers and if you are competing with businesses in neighboring states that don't have this tax you are at a huge disadvantage. You can't just pick up your Nuclear Plant and move it to another state where the taxes are less, so shut it down, mothball it and decommission it. And talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face, my place of work brings $1,200,000,000 to state in revenue annually. So who is loosing, we all are.
Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich
November 14, 2009
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I know this doesn't effect most of you, and it's not really related to the original topic... But, this is happening all over and will continue to happen. How did this snow ball get started??? From my point of view, it started during Bill Clinton term, when he signed the 'Free Trade Act', which basically allowed more imports with less import tax. While other countries have less USA imports and when they do have USA imports, the import tax is very high. So major companies move when they see cheap labor and low cost power and natural resources and no pollution control. This is also happening right inside our borders where a company sees an advantage in another state, be it cheaper power, or less pollution control, or cheaper labor (for the short term). But in the power industry's case, the state wants to rape the company which means the cost will be passed on to the users (y'all). In some cases, the power is already tied up in long term contracts and the rate may not be renegotiated so now the company is selling at a loss (ya right, like that's going to happen). The end result is this:
Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich
October 13, 2009
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Great posts Mox!
Most people will agree free trade has been a disaster. We need action by our elected officials! I feel its affected the vast majority of Americans, even if they don't realize it.
Like Mox's plant, there is an awful lot of spinoff that a business creates, more than one usually realizes.
I hope your plant stays open Mox, and it will be a wakeup call for CT to get more business friendly!
Eric
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