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My personal meeting with Elgin Gates
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danwesson41fan
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I notice there are a few choice collectors items displayed in various pictures that bear the "IHMSA" logo etched in very desirable Dan Wessons.  Ditto for the various SuperMag calibers folks brag about here.  Well, at one point in my life, I met the man who was responsible for all of this: Elgin Gates.

 

Back in 1984, I was a sailor going through the Navy Nuclear Power Program and I was in the reactor phase at a place called Arco, Idaho.  The nearest town to Arco was Idaho Falls.  I lived in Idaho Falls for a spell and got to know some of the gunshops in town.  There was a place called Ike's Guns on 257A Street.  About a block over was Woody's Sporting Goods.  I was a regular to both places.  More on that later.  

 

Well, one Saturday evening, I went with my trusty Colt Python stainless 6" revolver to pop off a few 38 Special loads I had in my box full of goodies.  There was a favorite place to shoot, an outdoor gravel pit that doubled as a dump.  I went in my 1980 Honda Civic and was trying to set up a target when an older gentleman was doing the same thing.  He introduced himself as "Elgin" and from there we struck up a light conversation about shooting.  Both of us set up a target out about 50 yards and we both started firing.  I looked at his pistol and it was a modified Remington XP bolt action pistol in the "rough" (it appeared the stock was still in the raw and he said something about chambering the XP to some 7mm cartridge).  I believe it was the 7mm IHMSA but then again, it might have been something else.  We shot at the target and shook hands and parted ways. 

 

A few years later, I was discharged from the Navy and had went back to my old hometown of Salinas, CA. There was a shooting range near Laguna Seca that I had gone to.  By then, I had acquired a 44 Automag (yes, the 44 AMP gun that was like the one used in "Sudden Impact").  I wanted to shoot some of the silhouettes there but the range tenders told me "no!" The 44 Automag damages the silhouettes and they didn't want that to happen.  357 Automag, yes, 44, no (but 44 mag was o.k.).  Strange.  Then I remember I had talked with Elgin some years before and I contacted him, recalling that we had shot together on that outdoor range in Idaho Falls.  I asked him if he remembered me (besides, I got the address from one of the old gun magazines with the IHMSA address).  But my main beef was with those "emperors" at the Laguna gun range.  

 

I few weeks later, I got a letter back from Elgin stating that he did indeed remember me! He also said that what those dolts (my words, not his) were incorrect.  If anything, the 357 AMP cartridge would likely do more damage than the 44 and the 44 would be equivalent to the 44 magnum commonly used.  

 

Since I had this encounter, I thought I'd share that with you.  Oh, Ike's Gun Shop! It turns out the owner, Ike (I forget his last name) was personal friends with Elmer Keith.  He showed me a photograph of himself, Elmer, and a German Shepard dog that was accompanying them while both were fishing on one of the rivers in Idaho (the Salmon, if my guess is right).  Ike recounted the story where the dog somehow had kicked back into the crouch of my friend Ike.  Elmer let out a belly laugh when he saw that happen.  

I thought you all would like to hear about this little story.

DW41F. 

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March 23, 2012 - 5:26 am
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Thanks, amazing some of the folks we stumble across while living Life.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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I have been privileged to talk with and email Todd Spotti numerous times over the last year or so. He's a very nice gentleman. I look forward to meeting him if I am ever in his neighborhood, although we are on opposite coasts.

DW41F you're a lucky guy to have had your experience. dwf-sign

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I got to meet him briefly at the Internationals in Oakridge, TN just before he passed away. He appeared to be very nice, but was obviously a man with a lot on his mind at the match. I also met another well-known IHMSA staffer, and he was a most obnoxious, conceited individual who looked down at us minions.

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Thanks for sharing your story!  It's certainly a small world and you never know who you might meet!

 
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Great story about the man who really inspired a large portion of what has brought us all here together on this Forum.  Thanks for sharing it.

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If you would have only known then what you do now!!!    Thank you for the info, sharing and your Service!  

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Thanks for sharing your story.  We never know what is ahead down the road.  This reminded me of a meal I shared with Neil Knox.  R S

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Thats a great story on the man the myth the legend. Mr. Gates had the Midas touch on everything he touched from boats, cars, motorcycles, big game hunting and one of the twelve charter members of IHMSA and a cartridge designer. Some people are really amazing. He probably did more in one life time than most would do in 6-7 life times.

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Just think, if it wasn't for Mr. Gates, these particular guns would likely have never been made.surprised

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