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August 28, 2009
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Ok – how many of you guys that buy stuff online or through classifieds are getting tired of sifting through the sugar-coated descriptions in trying to determine what the actual condition of the item really is? It seems that a lot of sellers really have a difficult time in stating what the items' condition is without trying to hide or discount the deficiencies. It only took me a couple times of getting burned early on to figure out the game. Here's a few that I collected recently – I'll add to it as more good ones come along or feel free to add some yourself (my comments are in parenthesis).
A few handling marks & a couple of pin head pits that go unnoticed. (You can bet your a** they're noticeable.)_
Perfect with maybe a slight handling mark or two. (Maybe a slight handling mark or two? In this case, if it’s a maybe you better count on it. Perfect means no handling marks, you can’t have it both ways.)
IN NEAR MINT CONDITION. THE ONLY FLAW I SEE IS RIGHT AT THE VERY TIP END OF THE BARREL IS A LITTLE SMALL SHINY SECTION, MAYBE FROM HOLSTERING ONCE OR TWICE. (If holstering a gun once or twice causes the finish to wear off, I wouldn’t want it.)
Dan Wesson 15-2 Revolver – The frame is parkerized and was made in Monson, MA. It has seen little use as evidenced by the recoil shield and very faint turn mark on the cylinder. (Sorry, refinished parkerized Dan Wessons don’t qualify for “little use”.)
NIB. in perfect condition shot very,very little. (Again, you can’t have it both ways. NIB means UNFIRED.)
extremely clean almost unfired (Almost unfired? I really can’t figure this one out)
NEAR MINT Vintage Condition (Be careful of this one. This means it is in mint condition FOR ITS AGE.)
Dan Wesson DW 15 revolver 357 mag gun part target grips NOS in box. These grips are in the box and show very little use. (Another case of wanting it both ways. NOS means New Old Stock. It can’t be New and Used at the same time).
The gun is in like new condition and comes with its original box and paperwork.. It does show a few minor handling marks, as can be seen in pictures. (Like New and As New means the same condition you would buy a new gun at retail. Would you buy a new gun with handling marks/)
hardly any noticeable wear marks (This doesn’t really tell me anything, but you can count on it having some things you may not like).
I THINK WE HAVE A BOX (Don’t plan on getting any extras when you see something like this.)
minor age-appropriate scuffs and scratches (I guess this is an attempt to discount the scuffs and scratches)
They are new but have handleing marks from years of sitting on a gun shop shelf.The touch up would take minutes and you would never see them. (I see this quite often. If things are so easy and simple repair, then how come no one repaired it? Be care of this one).
There is a Small Cluster in the Blue (This is the first time I ever heard of rust being referred to as a “Cluster”. The more common way of avoiding the word “rust" is calling it “freckles”. In my opinion, this is nothing short of a “Cluster ****).
Other than small wear on underlug and being fired some, gun would be as new. (This one is just plain stupid – I can’t even comment on it).
February 11, 2010
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Even worse than wading thought all the BS is the ones that straight
out just say perfect condition in every way , bought a barrel once
with just that simple description and it had pits galore down the
tube. 
-Blacktop
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February 9, 2009
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Harly,
That is Great! I must admit to being and Andy Rooney fan and even in my youth would tolerate 60-minutes just to hear Andy at the end of the show. If you read your post hearing it in Andy's voice, it comes out just like one of his commentaries.. Thanks for posting, it made my evening.
SMF
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May 17, 2009
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Fantastic post. If Andy were alive he'd be raising his eye brows for sure.
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April 20, 2010
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SMF, that is great! I loved Andy Rooney, I had to reread it again that way and you are right!
-Lonwolf
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February 26, 2012
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My favorite is "used but in mint condition". If it's mint then it's as it came from the factory and can't have been used.
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November 17, 2008
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A little different but I can't resist. Years ago I was shopping for a used bass boat. I drove an hour to look at a boat in "good usable condition" when I arrived the boat had a 20 foot tree growing through the bottom. 
I was so infurated it's a wonder I didn't go to jail that day.
LB
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December 27, 2010
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That's why they say buyer beware!
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March 27, 2009
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Great stuff, now we are seeing the RARE come up every where! like the 744 that is rare, well maybe it is to the person who has it. On the other end I have found some will go over board on how bad it is and then when u get it not as bad as you thought it would be. Or that huge scratch looking thing in picture is just lint!
A resent purchase called out gun is used and was carried while hunting and fishing. Yip it looks like! 
January 22, 2008
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Great collection! I'm sure we'll be adding to this post as we all visit GB and other sites!
August 28, 2009
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I'm not srue if this one needs to be added and I apologize in advance if I'm wrong, but I think it does fit in here (especially since the case has been beat a bit and is missing the plastic center piece):
Vintage Dan Wesson Full Lug 357 Magnum Pistol Pack, Original Case, Tools , 3 Sets of Grips, 4 Full Lug Barrels 2, 4 , 6 & 8 Inch. Amazing Condition, Safe Queen. Very few imperfections. Rare factory special order red lining with brass buttons, Beautiful Wood Dan Wesson Target & Presentation Grips. Original Case with Serial Numbered Label. Great Investment Hard To Find Full Lug Set with Dark Red Lined Case! Early Vintage Mass. Production. This is a desired Collectors Set.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=297109473
January 22, 2008
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The red fabric certainly has a 70's feel to it. 
January 22, 2008
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So, did DW do special orders like that or was the case re-lined?
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January 22, 2008
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I've never read of any options to personalize the fabric so I think it's a safe assumption that this one is not original.
August 28, 2009
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Here's a couple new ones:
NO NICKS OR DINGS WORTHY OF NOTE. (Does this mean there are some nicks or dings that are not worthy of note?)
What you see is what you get. (This is one of my all time favorites. Everyone knows that most of the flaws don't show up in average photos used in mosl postings. More times than not you usually get what you don't see also. Whenever I see this I run for the hills!)
There is a small compression mark on the bottom rear of the right side of the recoil shield. (I think the only way to make a compression mark in steel is to make a DENT!!)
July 15, 2012
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It's like buying a used car. Sometimes the sellers try to be purposely deceptive and creative to sell their item and sometimes people try to be as honest as their knowledge will allow. Either of these two could be a negative for the buyer. Deceptive is just deceptive....sellers with limited knowledge of the item they are selling something the best they can do is describe every small detail they see but don't know much about what they are selling. I can give you an example of the limited knowledge part, I saw an ad for a Dan Wesson .357 "parts gun", well I like parts guns So the description read something like, bluing has considerable holster wear, but has a loose barrel so we will consider it as a "parts gun", have a gunsmith check it out. Now this particular gun came to me from another dealer. I'm sure you all are thinking by this point, loose barrel? parts gun? as you guessed, the nut was a tad bit loose you could grab the shroud and detect movement. When I received the gun the finish wasn't terrible, definitely a wiggle to the barrel, I completely disassembled the gun and the internals looked great and the threads looked great on barrel, nut looked great. LoL, I have to throw this out there too. Because Dan Wesson's are so rare 
there are a lot of dealers that have never handled a Dan Wesson, so limited knowledge. To people with limited exposure they could possibly considered rare. I'll elaborate more on that when I get to work.
July 15, 2012
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I don't really take auctions that use the word "rare" as being particularly deceptive myself in regards to Dan Wesson's. I'll share a bit about my perspective on this. IMHO a Dan Wesson 744 is a rare gun in the context of what you find in a typical gun shop. I looked in my A&D bound book and counted the number of Dan's that I purchased new for customers (friends). I have 10 entries for new DW's and the last one was purchased in Oct 1989 from Buckeye Sports Supply in Canton, Ohio. My book currently has over 600 entries for NEW guns purchased and sold to customers, since I received my FFL in 1986. Out of the 10 new Dan's sold I NEVER sold a .44 mag or a Supermag (pricey for my customer base), all of them were blued .357 mags. I've had 35 Dan's come in and out of my book, nothing really exotic either. Of the dozen Dan's I have currently transferred to myself, I have one .357 max model 40, I have two 744's and the rest are 15-2's. Only thing I have that might be considered unique is a 15-2 with a 15in barrel, buehler mount and tasco scope. The only reason I ever sold Dan Wesson's in the first place was because I went to a gun show and saw one and I looked really really hard at that gun, and was intrigued by the interchangeable barrels. I went home and scoured my wholesale catalogs and flyers until I found one of my wholesalers that had them and bought one for myself, then my best friend saw it, shot it and had to have one. So I'm usually ok with the word "rare". 
October 11, 2009
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Folks, I know what your saying. Descriptions go one of 3 ways. 1st you can get an honest description from some sellers. 2nd you can get the cover up description that is just trying to unload the item. 3rd you can get a description from a seller who really thinks something is fine. And when you get it its junk. Its in the different perception of each individual. Old saying goes " One mans junk is another man's treasure".
Plus there is just one true fact about buying used on line guns. Its a pig in a poke. Let the buyer beware.
February 11, 2010
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This may be a little off topic but I believe it fits here. Just read the weekly
local Bulletin Board this morning :
"New High Point 9mm semi-auto. pistol, looks like Glock,
3 magazines $250 OBO; xxx-xxx-xxxx "
-Blacktop
August 28, 2009
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I got away from this for a while but just stumbled across a good one 
Up for auction is a very nice looking grip for a Dan Wesson revolver.It looks brand new with a beautiful grain patern.They do have a few marks on them and a small piece of wood missing on the backstrap area as can be seen in the pictures.I am sure that can be repaired very easy if you want.
It really does look brand new, but by the way there's a hunk missing from the back!! HAHAHA!!!
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