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Surfing GB the other day I found something a little different. A large and a small  DW frame before the machining was done. No SN to muddy the waters and I thought they would be great to fit grips to and save the wear and tear on my shooters. I am not sure if they will work for that now but either way a neat collectible I guess.  Here is a pic.

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That is just plain cool! I'd say it ranks right up there with Jody's Monson shroud stamp.Cool

It's interesting to me how much "meat" there is on the top of the small frame, and how generally "raw" it is compared to the large frame casting.

Way to go, those are both a cool thing to have in your DW collection.DWF Sign

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That is neat. 

 

 

Question:  Are they casting or forging or stamped?  I never really thought about it, but my guess is they are not cast.  Cast grain structure is big and brittle.  Forging is much stronger.  Stamped from sheet would be inbetween the cast and forge for strength.

Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich

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mox-ct said:

 Question:  Are they casting or forging or stamped?  I never really thought about it, but my guess is they are not cast.  Cast grain structure is big and brittle.  Forging is much stronger.  Stamped from sheet would be inbetween the cast and forge for strength.


 
I can't say for certain as I am not a metallurgist ( not sure I even spelled that right) He He He,  but I believe it is some type of casting. I do know that casting can be quite strong with the proper components and recipe. I suspect someone here will know how DW did it. Also I did not even realise until you made me look closer that they both are stainless and marked with a SS. At least I believe that what it means and they appear to be raw stainless.

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Generally speaking, you can tell a casting from a forging by the "seam".  Castings have a narrow seam usually 1/8" or thinner.  Forgings usually have a wider "seam" that is 1/4 to 3/8".  Of course, there is always exceptions to the rule.

 

Thinking of strength, there are different types of strength.  For example, Shear, Tensil.  To bring the picture into focus, you won't find a bolt made out of cast material.  Castings don't flex much and won't elongate much without breaking.  When applying torque to a bolt, you are relying on a certain amount of stretch, too much and you experience elongation and even fracture.  The best bolting material is forged.  Forgings flex and elongate and can take shear alot better, for example think of a crankshaft.  The crankshafts used in racing (NASCAR and such) are forged.  Cast cranks are reserved for production cars.  The crankshaft experiences a lot of stress in different modes. 

 

It would still be interesting to find out what process Dan Wesson used to make the frames.

Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich

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I saw those--wondered if anybody here was going to snag them.  You might want to make sure those grip tangs are the proper dimensions before you use them Wink.

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