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The "auction mentality" cracks me up sometimes
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This gun has been gathering cobwebs on Gun Broker since sometime in July...maybe even June! The asking price started out somewhere around $1100, if I recall correctly...it went 4 or 5 rounds at that price, then dropped to $1000...then $950...& so on.

The last FOUR rounds, the asking price has been $855...which technically, is not too bad & I was getting some extremely sweaty palms just thinking about it, myself.

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So on this, it's FIFTH round at $855, someone with equally sweaty palms & a festering case ofDWAS decided to place a bid on the 16th...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=142905946

Apparently, that bid put blood in the water, because as I type this, some other guy placed 5 bids of his own, to try & out bid the first guy!lol2

With 1.5 hours left to go, the high bid is currently at $970.00!!rofl

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October 17, 2009 - 10:00 pm
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What are the chances that first bid was a shill bid, placed by a friend of the seller just to kick things off?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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Makes me want to play with it but, wait, I have one of those.........no DWAS here.  It is hard to figure out sometimes where the bidding will go and maybe the starting price IS the secret. Who knows.  I'd just put a BIN price at what I want to get for it plain and simple.  Screwy

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October 18, 2009 - 10:02 am
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jaggman said: I'd just put a BIN price at what I want to get for it plain and simple.  Screwy


The only problem with that is that if it's considered a high price for most folks, it will end up having to be relisted a dozen times. However, if you started the bidding at $1 & set your reserve price at what you really want from the gun, then the "auction mentality" might just carry the bidding into the price you want for the gun...sort of like a runaway train.lol2

The other advantage to setting it up that way is that you'll get an idea what price the market will bear. If it's within $50 of your asking price, you can decide whether or not to drop your reserve by that much & end up with a sale. If the bidding won't get anywhere near your asking price, then you can stick it in the safe for another six months & try again later, when the market seems to be hotter.

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The "auction mentality" is quite simple to explain...it's driven by emotion!  The problem is that emotion and logic are bitter enemies when it comes to making the right purchase decisions.  If you think back to some of the emotional purchases that you've made, I'm sure that some have worked out while have not (i.e., you had some form of buyer's remorse).

I'm sure the more experienced auction participants have learned to tame their emotions when participating in auctions.  I haven't been in the game that long so I'm continually battling my emotions when making purchase decisions.  Despite my best efforts, I occasionally go into frenzy mode when the "blood hits the water"...the logic being I'll be darned if I'm going to let someone else purchase an item out from under me or I must have it!  I'm slowly learning from the error of my ways, but DWAS often wins out!

My advice for less experienced auction participants is to calm your emotions before and during bidding and  "follow your gut".  Your "gut" more often than not will let you know if the purchase decision is right...just my thoughts on the subject.

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My Auction strategy is virtually always to autobid my max, if I get it fine, if not OK. VERY rarely will I move on my best bid, and never by very much. If I must have it, I auto bid accordingly. Once I ran up bids (on collectible die cast muscle cars) just because a guy made me cranky by coming in and bidding on everything in sight and blowing auctions right through the roof, and I wasn't the only one running him up. He paid almost double what things were going for a week earlier, and two weeks later.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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Always end the auctions on a Saturday night after

the bidders have had two eveings

with libations in one had and the mouse in the other....Laugh

 If you're going to drink, don't drive. Don't even putt. 

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I guess that's my problem in reverse. As a kid I would go to cattle/horse, equipment, and house auctions with my Grandpa. I learned to set a value and stick to it. Gramps always use to say "if you spend too much today next week you won't have enough for something you really want".

I have let a few things slip by for very little over my price that now I wish I had gotten "auction mentality" and bid it up some.  Mad In the same respect I have gotten some great deals over the years.

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
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October 19, 2009 - 8:32 pm
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My problem is that every time I "bid up some", someone else bids up more.  Then if I really want it, I pay way more than I should.

Screwy

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As a buyer, the secret to keeping the final price low is to wait until right at the end to place your bid. With GB & their 15 minute rule, it's a little harder to do successfully without allowing enough time for others to jump in on the action, but it's still better than early bidding.

If an auction is placed on a usual 7 day time period, those 6 days & 23.5 hours are basically your time to leisurely walk around & "kick the tires", ask questions, beg for more pics, etc. If you place a bid early, you're doing two things; 1) alerting others out there that there's interest in an item, who may have not given it attention otherwise...2) giving others plenty of opportunity to drive the cost up, as the days pass.

If you wait until the last few minutes to place one bid (your highest bid), chances are that there will be fewer people actually sitting there, watching the auction as the clock winds down...they may very well be at work, or at the movies, or whatever. 

THAT is the best way to get the best deal on something, I've found.Wink Of course, it can always work against you too, if you happen to be the one who's not watching the clock wind down...it happens to me more often than I want to admit.Embarassed

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There you go...now you've done it!  Everyone's last minute bidding strategy will overload the GB servers and quite possibly cause a Brown Out or Black Out!  Big Grin

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October 20, 2009 - 11:16 am
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LOL!rofl Well, it only makes sense, doesn't it?Laugh

And I'll also reaffirm that if I know someone else here has gotten first dibs on something I'm interested in, I'll gladly step aside until they post an "I'm out" if the bidding goes over what they're wanting to pay.

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October 20, 2009 - 10:33 pm
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Charger Fan said:

And I'll also reaffirm that if I know someone else here has gotten first dibs on something I'm interested in, I'll gladly step aside until they post an "I'm out" if the bidding goes over what they're wanting to pay.


Pretty much where I am on this too. If it's sometning I'm really interested in, I'll PM my "DWF Brother" and talk about how far I'm willing to go in bidding, if he want's it more, I won't even bid.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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I just suffered the blow of waiting to the last minute to place a bid. I agree with the strategy, but a TC barrel I was planning on bidding on at the last minute got closed early because there were no bids to make the seller keep it listed. Not a big deal but the one down side of the last minute strategy. I guess that is my punishment for not hitting the BIN since it was reasonable, I just had hoped to come in a little cheaper. Oh well, win some lose some.Frown

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I always slap a .99 bid on anything I am serious about just to "hold" it.  Sellers can still yank their ad, but they are not supposed to.

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