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November 23, 2011
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As a new member I have been reading and trying to catch up on what has been going on with the forum before. One thing that I think we could agree on is that forum members played no small part in getting CZ to bring back the Dan Wesson Revolver.
That CZ decided to bring back this fine revolver back in 357 mag. only I find troubling. I am betting that most forum members own one if not more Dan Wesson in 357 mag. I have two. The question is how many members will buy a new Dan Wesson in 357mag? Will CZ market the gun aggressively to people that have not owned a Dan Wesson before? I have seen nothing in the trade magazines. CZ has brought the 357 back into a customer base that is populated by Ruger, S&W, and Taurus.
I would like to see a DW in 327mag. , A 10mm with moon clips that would also shoot 40 S&W, a 45apc, 41mag and 44 mag. I am betting this would cause more of us to break our piggy banks.
My concern is that by bring out the Dan Wesson only in 357mag, that sales will be so low that the gun will soon be dropped to never be seen again.
I hope I am wrong on this! R S
Remembering John Nosler
May 3, 2011
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CZ is a mega size company as you know. They don't do anything with out making sure it's going to be really profitable. They throw us some of the crumbs from the table so to speak. I'm glad of that and I would like to see some more calibers as you mentioned. Gun companies are the hardest people to convince of anything that they don't come up with themselves. I guess we will have to wait and see.
November 23, 2011
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Gary I hope your right. Has anyone seen any promotional push for market share? R S
May 17, 2010
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Your sentiments have been expressed before, even by myself.
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Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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I have no idea how these kind of "introductions" of a new item work in the firearms manufacturing world. I'm pretty unimpressed with CZ's handling of the 715 rollout, but maybe this is par for the course.
Guess we'll just wait and see.
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George Carlin
November 23, 2011
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Steve CT....The firearms industry is not all that different than the car or Apple computers industry. First you research a concept, If the research concludes that the project will have a margin large enough to make a profit. Then prototypes are made and tested at trade shows like the Shot Show. The public and or dealers response is gauged and orders may be taken. As the gun nears final production, samples are sent out to trade magazine writers. Some times an event like the one held at Gunsite to introduce Ruger's Scout rifle may be held.
Early in the concept phase a decision is made as to what part of the market share your new gun will target. Remember Taurus introducing their new 1911? They targeted the low cost 1911 market. Where as a company like Kimber targets the more high end 1911 line. Their push is we are the best and worth the extra money. R S
Remembering John Nosler
May 3, 2011
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I can't help but think of the time when IHMSA began in 1976. Elgin Gates tried really hard to get the big gun manufacturers to build a silhouette type gun by modifying some of their existing pistol [1970s-80s.] He even guaranteed them a large sets of orders and they refused him over and over. Only the small companies like DW and T/C and I think United Arms listen to him. DW and T/C set the IHMSA world on fire. The large companies slowly modified some of their pistols and ctg to compete. They are a tough bunch of guys to see it our way. In the 80's there were over 40,000 shooters in IHMSA and they were shooting zillions of rounds. It revolutionized pistols,. reloading and ctg etc. Only then did the big companies listen.
January 22, 2008
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I haven't seen a new 715 in the wild yet and I wonder if it will actually happen.
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Dans Club
March 27, 2009
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I am thinking it is a tease! How long now have we heard it is coming! Maybe they are waiting for some number of pre production orders... I guess time will tell, maybe 2012 will be the year of the 715!
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