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May 16, 2012
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Hello all! While looking around the net I found the picture below. It says Dan Wesson, the engraver describes it as a Dan Wesson but the thing is that its obviously a Smith Wesson unless I am so wrong. The sideplate, rear sights and apperance all are Smith Wesson. What do you think?
February 21, 2011
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It says "Dan Wesson" right on it! Also if you look at the rear of the barrel shroud & the front of the frame there is the classic DW mis-match of the profile.
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December 4, 2011
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I can clearly see 'Dan Wesson Firearms' Norwich NY right on the frame. Looks like a Dan to me. Somebody did a nice engraving job on it too.
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November 17, 2008
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Naw, I believe we have some photo shop or something going on there. Look at it closely. The cylinder is wrong as is other stuff. But I could just be 
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March 2, 2008
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lbruce said
Naw, I believe we have some photo shop or something going on there. Look at it closely. The cylinder is wrong as is other stuff. But I could just be
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Looks pretty funky to me as well. Serial Number on the same side as the sideplate screws?
Cylinder rotation looks wrong as well as the rear sight.
Above all is the different shading of the serial number/manufacturer area on the "side plate"
It would be interesting to know more about this gun.
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February 22, 2009
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lbruce said
Naw, I believe we have some photo shop or something going on there. Look at it closely. The cylinder is wrong as is other stuff. But I could just be
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Agree w/ LB & Steve. Cylinder rotation is wrong, the trigger, hammer, side plate and rear sight are all S&W. Wondering what the story is...
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December 4, 2012
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Did Dan Wesson ever use a screw for side plates, I mean a standard verses Alan head?
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July 2, 2011
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You guys are right, that thing looks plain weird....
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It's a S&W frame. Bob S. made a few of these hybrids which I've read about before. Here's a piece on it....
Here's the guy's art page...
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February 9, 2009
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Harly beat me to it. I had also been in contact with Bob about these years ago. He also did a handful of .44's in the JC package. Smith built frames with DW barrel interchangeability. Cool idea.
Not DW strong though.
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December 4, 2011
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OK another Dan Wesson oddity. So is it a Dan Wesson or a Smith? Or Smith/Dan?
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May 16, 2012
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Nice info! I thought it could be a hybrid because of the shroud but did not know the whole scale of the thing. My view is that in the end these were just re-branded S&W frames with DW barrels, certainly not in keeping with the vision of D.B.Wesson.
February 21, 2011
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Back in the day this kind of thing was popular. "Smythons" (Python S&W hybrid & so on)
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March 25, 2013
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You guys have not searched the archives. I have posted several times about this gun. It is a Smith /Dan hybrid. Bob Serva had six of each made in at least 4 calibers, 22lr ,357, 44mag, and 45acp before he sold the company to CZ. I think thereare 2 more calibers. He was going to have S&W make the frames and he would provide the barrel assemblies. They were serialized Dan Wessons. There is no records from Smith and Wesson. When Bob sold DW the guns were distributed to executives.
S&W recieved the right to use Dan Wesson technology. They used the barrel and shroud on their X frame guns first. Then the N frame 8 round guns. I think they also incorporated other Dan Wesson tech too. S&W did it for accuracy. They only sell barrel tools to FFLs and gunsmith. There is a very limited number of barrel options.
The gun I have was bought off of Gunbroker. The seller had bought it off Gunbroker and it was sold by Bob Serva. I have all the providence of that original transaction. The owner before me had it engraved by Ian Morrison. The Zebra grips and 2 other grips are custom made to look like DW one piece grips but are S&W 2 piece stocks. I am not sure that a Smith frame is better than a Dan Wesson but the biggest complaint about Dan Wessons was the cylinder release in front of the cylinder.
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March 25, 2013
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Lastly, unfortunately other DW barrel assemblies will not work on the Jim Cirillo model. Instead of a roll pin located on the frame to aline the shroud there is a flange on the top rail of the shroud that fits into a slot on the top rail of the frame. It might be possible to dove tail in the flange on other shrouds.
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