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I sense a desire on some folks part to talk a little, so let me pose this question:

IF DANIEL B. WESSON WERE HERE TODAY, WHAT WOULD HE DO WITH DAN WESSON ARMS?

Given the changes in manufacturing capabilities, shooting sports in general, politics and government, etc. , what would a modern Dan Wesson Arms look like?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Well, for one thing there would be no more stainless guns.  That would make me unhappy because I love stainless.

That's a start.

-Mike

 

 

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I think the buiness would move to a more firearms friendly environment such as Montana or Wyoming.

Also think some DW would be made out of modern Aluminum, maybe even those cute colors like the Charter Arms.

I would think there is a larger market for stainless steel so we would see more of them.

Pistol Pacs would improve in presentation, i.e. better looking cases.

We would see a 50 cal.

Drool

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It has been documented that Dan didn't like stainless but he would have had to come around to it.  Please DW's just look good in stainless!

I agree with Mox that we would have at least seen some Aluminum shrouds as there were discussion in early articles about them.

If Dan were still alive I would like think I could run out to my local gun shop and buy a new DW Revolver in any caliber I would like.  

It would be cool to have a cased revolver / 1911 combo with similar serial numbers.  I would certainly hope that DW would not have produced a pink pistol pac but if it would sell I guess that's okay.

 

 
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I agree with Mox, I bet there would have been a .50 caliber SuperMag by now, if Dan was still around...with a little nudging from Elgin, of course.Wink

Jody, I like that idea of a matched revolver/1911 set, that sounds cool.Cool

 

If Dan were still around, you can bet that revolvers would still be shipped from the plant daily.DWF Sign

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Well to start with, DWA would be making revolvers right now. I think he would be slightly unhappy (read: pi$$ed) that CZ is not making revolvers.  I think that we would have seen a gradual refinement of the action of the revolvers. I also agree that DWA would be a competitor in the revolver market not just an also ran, and that they would be on the leading edge of revolver design, both in different materials and processes of manufacturing.  I think DW would have warmed to the idea of stainless guns as the market moved that way and as the metallurgy improved. You could go the other way and say that DWA might have just went under to stay if DW had remained unwilling to change as the market changed, in which case we would not have most of the DW's we have now. I am interested to see what some others have to say about it

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So we think 1911's would be part of the Modern Daniel B. Wesson DWA?

Long Guns? AR's?

Also, I think the .50's would mean an even larger frame size than the Supermags, yes?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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I agree with Superdan's thought...DW would have kept the name in forefront of quality & design, by gradual refinements. Just look at the progression of refinements through the Porkchop years & into the 15-2 years...night & day, from one to the other. I think that Dan's unwillingness to change was mainly regarding stainless guns...I think that in all other areas, he was very eager to hear new ideas for improvements on the design.

I also think he would have come around eventually with stainless, mainly because so many others were having good results with stainless by the late 70's.

 

Steve, I don't know about AR's, but I bet 1911's & long guns wouldn't have been out of the question.Smile

 

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I am not sure where Dan would have taken things had he stayed longer but I do believe he looks down and smiles on a certain online group.DWF Sign.

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The reason I throw in 1911's and AR's (well, M-16's) is because they both existed in those days as very basic, generic firearms that have evolved to be adaptable, modular, highly refined.They are available in more calibers that originally designed, many different configurations, and have strong "cult" followings. Sound familiar?

DWB took the time tested DA revolver profile of the 70's and made it adaptable, modular, and who knows where it would have gone with his hand on the wheel through the 80's?

Just a little stirrin' the pot, ya know

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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Was Dan Wesson a firm double action supporter.  Maybe he would have come around to the single action revolvers and give Seville and Freedom Arms some competition.   I could see a SA with interchangeable barrels Laugh.

 

 

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April 20, 2010 - 9:31 pm
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If Dan were around I'm sure he would be here at the forum with us.

 

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wdelack said:

 I could see a SA with interchangeable barrels Laugh.


 

THAT would be cool.Cool I know Dan & Sig Himmelman worked with each other often with IHMSA stuff, so your idea may not be too far off the mark.Laugh

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Ok, I  thought about this one. It's a flip whether Dan would have really done

this or I just wanted to see it done but I'm gonna throw it out there...

Wouldn't it be cool if a Pistol Pack came with multiple Barrel/Shrouds and multiple

cylinders in different calibers that all worked with the same frame ?

They would come in small frames and a large frames and they would be

called the VersaPak series.

 

Ok I'm ready...Hit me  Slap

 

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I don't see the multi-caliber part working unless there were some type of safety mechanism to prevent a caliber mix-up.

 

I do like the idea of a pac with a verity of shrouds.  Given the verity though, to have all of them included in each length would make for a very large and heavy case Wink.   And it sounds like EWK_STUFF will offer more choices available sometime soon.  Maybe one of those Halliburton cases on wheels lol2DroolMini Gun 

 

 

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wdelack said:

 Maybe one of those Halliburton cases on wheels.
 


 

I love it! lol2

I thought I read somewhere in developement the idea was to have interchangeable cylinders so you had the option of changing to different calibers. But it must be like Wayne says, it must of been too much of a safety issue if someone puts the wrong combiniation together for it to fly.

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EWK_Stuff said:

wdelack said:

 Maybe one of those Halliburton cases on wheels.
 


 
I love it! lol2

I thought I read somewhere in developement the idea was to have interchangeable cylinders so you had the option of changing to different calibers. But it must be like Wayne says, it must of been too much of a safety issue if someone puts the wrong combiniation together for it to fly.

Eric


 

Yea,  I knew I would take a hit for that but I said it anyway, I still think it would be cool.

Not like you would have to take a common sense class to watch out and keep the

cylinders and barrels matched up(laser engrave both) .

You can chamber a .243 in a .308 and a reloader could grab the wrong powder.....lots of

maybe's out there. There could be some saftey features like shoud only fits certain barrel

and ejector rod on cylinder will only fit that certain shoud.

 

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The one major drawback I see to having interchangeable cylinders is that you wouldn't need as many guns!

 
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