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Barrel Question from new DWF owner
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January 31, 2019 - 11:35 pm
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But now a new issue has arisen. The next barrel has the proper amount of threads. But now that I try the barrel sleeve, it won't flush tight against the frame, because the end of the extractor hits the cutout and won't allow it to draw up. When I tightened it up, the cylinder won't rotate and the crane won't open. Anyone want to chime in and tell me if they've experienced these issues? The right side of the barrel sleeve says, "Dan Wesson 44 Magnum ctg. Just like the other barrels that do fit properly. 🤔

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Hmmm, this gets messier and messier. First, it is a little confusing. You should refer to the "barrel sleeve " as the shroud. The barrel assembly is the barrel, shroud and barrel nut. My first thought is that you have a small frame shroud but it says 44 mag. Maybe it was made on the Monday after the Superbowl and the machinist had a hell of a hangover. Evidently the shroud was screwed up too. I would send it to Eric at EWK and ask him to set it right. The shroud would have to be milled out for a longer ejector rod and then reblued. I might suspect you had a Supermag ejector rod but you say the other barrel assemblies fit so that can't be. Send it to EWK. 

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February 1, 2019 - 8:53 am
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Is the ejector rod fully screwed into the extractor?  If its backed out it would be too long.  Did this shroud ever fit on this gun since you've had it?  

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February 1, 2019 - 9:23 am
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 No. I've never had this shroud on before.  I believe I will have to have the shroud milled out. Or a shorter ejector rod. The ejector rod is screwed in all of the way. 

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February 1, 2019 - 10:39 am
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Do any shrouds fit the frame?  If so, measure 6he slot to see what the difference is.  Is it possible someone installed a longer supermag ejector rod on your gun?

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The 8" and the 6" fit perfectly. The slot in 4" shroud is approximately 3/64ths too short, to allow the ejector rod clearance to drop in place. As well as binding the action, if trying to assemble will the cylinder closed. Believe the shroud needs to be milled out more ,or the ejector rod needs to be shorter. Looked on line, but haven't found one, or even two different sizes. Don't want to shorten the ejector rod I have. Contemplating lengthening the clearance of the slot myself, then rebluing the shroud. It does have a different shade of blue, than the frame.

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February 1, 2019 - 5:13 pm
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Just a thought, since the barrel was already an anomaly, was perhaps the shroud shortened by the previous owner?  Odd things keep happening around that barrel assembly to what appears to be a normal large frame DW.  Just a thought.

 

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It's always interesting to inherit a previous owners SNAFU....  I enjoy trying to figure things out and get them running again...  Take your time, think, compare, measure, but don't rush to alter until you're certain you are correct.

Compare the length of the 4" BA ejector rod cutout to the other BAs you or other member have.  Same length?  If not, where does the slot differ from other members' 4" BA; at the front or overall length?

You're certain the ejector rod isn't unscrewed a bit as SCORPIO mentioned?  It's a common occurrence.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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Checked and double checked. Ejector rod is screwed all of the way into the extractor. The overall length of the 4" barrel shroud is 3 1/4", the 6" is 5 1/4", and the 8" is 7 1/4". I don't see anything inconsistent there. The ejector rod slot opening on the 4" barrel shroud is only 1 1/4", but on the 6" and 8" the opening is almost 1 3/8" These two barrels work fine. The ejector rod, screwed all the way in, measures 1 5/16, from the front of the crane to the tip of the rod. The only way the 4" will work is if I have an ejector rod 1/8" shorter or the slot in the barrel shroud is relieved another 1/8 of an inch. Since I really like the 6" VH, (it shoots great), I'll probably have this one on more than any other, but I hate having the 4" and not being able to use it. Could get another ejector rod and shorten it and only use it when I'm using the 4". This may be my best option with the least amount of time and effort.

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That's probably what I would do after I asked DW if it could be repaired as warranty work...

Edit//  I broke my 4" BA out: 3.190" (3-3/16) OAL, slot is 1.309" (1-5/16) long, beginning 1.868" (1-7/8) from the front of the shroud

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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February 2, 2019 - 11:15 pm
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rwsem said
That's probably what I would do after I asked DW if it could be repaired as warranty work...  

This. Send an email to Bob at DW and see what he says. Bob@cz-usa.com

He can definitely relieve the cutout and reblue. 

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Thanks for checking on those measurements.

Believe I will see if the current owner of DW will do anything about this. I'm going with this barrel as manufactured incorrectly. 

Thanks for the email address for CZ. I'm going to send Bob a message and see what they can do.

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