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December 1, 2016 - 3:02 pm
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Moved to New Members-Steve

I am new to this forum and just a few weeks ago became the proud owner of my first DW 1911 their PM9.  Was so pleased with the fit and finish a truly beautiful gun with a roller bearing slide.  The quality of workmanship puts my Kimbers to shame!  Unfortunately at the range it did not perform to my expectations.  The first day on the range I managed to get appox 120 rounds of 115gr Winchester and Federal FMJ down range with a just few FTF and FTE issues and only one fail to go into battery.  

Then out of nowhere the slide ceased  half open.  My shooting partner and I both tried to free it up.  It was locked up halfway open tighter than Fort Knox!!  Had to take it home and hammer the slide into position so I could disassemble to determine the potential cause, we couldn't find anything....cleaned and lubricated using the same Remington gun oil I originally used to relube after receiving the new PM9.

Once again the action slid back and forth effortlessly, proceeded to manually work the action several hundred times to see if I could get it to tighten up and or cease...nothing until I went to the range the next day.  Well as you have already guessed 26 rounds in it ceased up again.  Just not sure what could be causing this?  I've heard of SS Galling, but I thought that was an old problem and with alloy changes that this was no longer an issue.  As the manual recommends I've even tried to limit the number of rounds to 50 before I take it down clean and lube.  Unfortunately Can't get 50 rounds thru it before it ceases.  Rather frustrated and disappointed.  

Anyone else experienced this issue, more importantly does anyone have any suggestions looking for some type of resolve?  Beautiful gun and when it functions correctly it is truly a real pleasure to shoot.  

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I'll take this one... 🙂

First, Welcome to the DWF !!!

1-Next -- lose the rem-oil.... too thin for a new PM9.  Use what DW recommends only (FP-10 or Miltec).

2-Pull it apart and clean it GOOD--then lube it heavy with those mentioned above.  Then work the slide 200 times

3-Pull it apart and clean it GOOD--then lube it heavy with those mentioned above.

4-go shoot 50 rounds ONLY -- strip it back down--clean it GOOD -- Lube it heavy again 

5-REPEAT step 4 , and keep repeating for 500 rounds or so.

 

Hopefully it isn't galled bad already.

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Shoot, greatly appreciate your advice and recommendations.  Been to the range the last two days and only had a couple issues out of the first two mags.  2 FTF and 1 failure to go into battery.  Since your response I have successfully ran 250 rounds down range.  The DW PM9 Appears to be getting smoother and the slide and frame appear to be enjoying their honeymoon!

Prior to your response I was getting very frustrated and concerned over my PM9 investment.  Have to say I am now Gaining confidence with every successful trigger pull.  

Would never have guessed that the Rem Oil was that inferior.  Just never owned a tight DW 1911 before.  My Kimber Custom Aegis ll is a nice gun, but the fit and finish on the Pointman is truly superior and its action couldn't be any slicker.  So glad that I shared my concerns, and once again I appreciate your knowledgeable response!

only have three words left to say.  HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY

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The DW 1911's run much tighter tolerances than, shall I call them, 'lesser' brands of 1911.  Therefore they require special break in procedures to insure trouble free operation.  The advice Shoot gave you is 100 percent on the money.  I'll only add that I run all my DW 1911's 'wet' with FP-10 even after break in.  Once everything is properly seated, they will rarely have FTF, FTE, FTRB issues.  

Rem oil is fine for certain things but it's too low a viscosity to stay put where it needs to be in a 1911, it tends to break down and run out of the clearances.

Anything worth doing is worth doing well.

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Something many DW 1911 buyers don't know (because it is not clearly stated by DW) is that they build a tight, quality 1911, one step down from a semi custom 1911. Following break in instructions on this level 1911 simply finishes off the the manufacturing process, and helps the buyer get a great gun.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Thanks everyone for your valuable input.  It is greatly appreciated.  Nice that DW has such a forum so that this type of information can be shared among their owners and members!

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