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August 20, 2014
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Hello everyone,
Just registered. I've been involved in shooting sports for over 35 years but I have never owned or fired a DW. I recently got the bug to acquire one chambered in .357. Unfortunately they don't come up for sale very frequently up here so I'm constantly scanning the used firearms forums. Looking to learn as much as possible.
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Hello Robert, welcome to the forum. We have a number of members from The Great White North. Growing up in the Detroit area, I can say I spent a bunch of time having having fun in Canada!
This is the place for Dan info. Ask away and you will get plenty of quality feedback. Keep up the hunt and your Dan will find you!
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March 2, 2008
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I'm not real clear on Canadian regulations, my guess is that you cannot buy one from outside, correct?
Also, I think there may be barrel length restrictions?
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February 22, 2009
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Steve- the major hurdle is the US Export Regulations- they're ridiculous. I couldn't even send a scope to a buddy of mine...legally....seems you need an export license for anything that has to do with firearms and optics that can be placed on them.
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August 20, 2014
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Steve CT said
I'm not real clear on Canadian regulations, my guess is that you cannot buy one from outside, correct?Also, I think there may be barrel length restrictions?
Hello,
The simple answer to both of your questions is YES.
I can purchase a handgun from the U.S. but I need to go through what you would call a FFL dealer here. I know of only 1 in Canada (there maybe more) but it's expensive as this dealer charges a substantial fee (currently $250 per gun) for this service. Buying handgun parts from the U.S. is an exercise in frustration as the U.S. business must have the proper export licence, and most don't/ won't sell to Canada. From 1997 and onwards you need a special classification on your firearms licence to be able to possess or purchase a handgun with a barrel that is less than 4.1" long. If you had a handgun with a short (under 4.1") barrel that was registered before 1997, you were "grandfathered" and received this special classification on your licence. This allows you to still be able to purchase one, but you can only sell/purchase from someone with the same special licence. When you expire, your estate must either surrender these firearms, or sell them to someone with the proper licence, or if inherited, the person must also have this special licence. I'm not sure how the DW's are classified as the barrels are interchangeable. I suppose I could purchase one with a short barrel and then rebarrel with a longer than 4.1" barrel, but that would make the short barrel illegal for me to possess, as it is now a prohibited device when it's not attached to a receiver. Lot's of rules/restrictions up here....
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Steve CT said
I'm not real clear on Canadian regulations, my guess is that you cannot buy one from outside, correct?Also, I think there may be barrel length restrictions?
Hello,
The simple answer to both of your questions is YES.
I can purchase a handgun from the U.S. but I need to go through what you would call a FFL dealer here. I know of only 1 in Canada (there maybe more) but it's expensive as this dealer charges a substantial fee (currently $250 per gun) for this service. Buying handgun parts from the U.S. is an exercise in frustration as the U.S. business must have the proper export licence, and most don't/ won't sell to Canada. From 1997 and onwards you need a special classification on your firearms licence to be able to possess or purchase a handgun with a barrel that is less than 4.1" long. If you had a handgun with a short (under 4.1") barrel that was registered before 1997, you were "grandfathered" and received this special classification on your licence. This allows you to still be able to purchase one, but you can only sell/purchase from someone with the same special licence. When you expire, your estate must either surrender these firearms, or sell them to someone with the proper licence, or if inherited, the person must also have this special licence. I'm not sure how the DW's are classified as the barrels are interchangeable. I suppose I could purchase one with a short barrel and then rebarrel with a longer than 4.1" barrel, but that would make the short barrel illegal for me to possess, as it is now a prohibited device when it's not attached to a receiver. Lot's of rules/restrictions up here....
Yikes!
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if you find one...what's your plan?
August 15, 2014
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Wow. I never realized the restrictions applied in Canada to firearms ownership.
Welcome, having only recently joined myself, I've found the members to be very knowledgeable and willing to help with questions.
Good luck with your search.
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March 25, 2013
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Americans tend to think Canada is United States Light. But they have no Bill of Rights. Canada is what the U.S. would be like if progressives had their way; no second amendment,socialized medicine and other important differences. Come to Florida and get warm.
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October 14, 2010
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Welcome. There is a group of Canadian shooters that travel down each month for the IHMSA match in Ohio. Surprisingly they have any issue crossing the border with a truck full of guns.
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August 20, 2014
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Hello,
With the proper documents and purpose for crossing the border it is possible to travel, but very difficult. I would assume that they would be scrutinized very closely when returning to Canada as they have to declare that they have firearms. You would have to be a real serious competitor to want to wade through all the red tape.
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Welcome. There is a group of Canadian shooters that travel down each month for the IHMSA match in Ohio. Surprisingly they have any issue crossing the border with a truck full of guns.
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March 27, 2009
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Welcome and heck just move! A Dan with a fixed 6"is what you need! These would made by Wesson! Less red tape maybe!!!
February 20, 2008
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Welcome and enjoy the forum and fine folks!
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October 1, 2010
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Hi 824tsv
I want to take a rifle to the US, from Ontario, to compete. Here's what I understand.
To carry it into the US I need a letter from the club saying I'm coming to compete (or a US hunting license). Then I need to fill out the appropriate form for bATF approval - ATF E-Form 6NIA (5330.3D).
To bring it back to Canada is the easy part. I need a BSF-407(10), no expiry date, from the CBSA (Canadian Border Services Agency). I took my rifle to the CBSA and had my form in 5 minutes. This proves it originated in Canada & I didn't`t buy it in the US and am trying to avoid taxes. And I need the appropriate PAL to show I can legally possess it. (We used to do the BSF-407 for expensive cameras, watches and such years ago)
I happened to buy the rifle from the US and went through the hoops. Quite easy, but lengthy, and as you point out cost me $250 plus shipping.
good luck
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March 2, 2008
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Just curious, would a local state regulation take precedence?
If the rifle was an AR type, it's possible that it could not be brought into CT (for example), which has an "Assault Weapon" ban against importing this into CT.
I'm guessing that this would not be "importing" a rifle, unfortunately, in the Peoples Republic of Connecticut, it's very tough to know for sure.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
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October 1, 2010
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I guess this would be answered by the bATF when you sent in the application. You need to identify firearm, where you will shoot in competition, or where you will hunt.
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December 5, 2014
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I bought a 714 back in '91 with a 4" barrel, the new gun laws were brought in several years later and in Sept 2004 I decided to reg all my guns because the police were stopping hunters to see if their guns were registered. It took several months to receive the registration for my rifles and shotguns (this has now been abolished), aprox 1 year for 2 handguns and finally in Apr '08 I received notice to turn in my prohibited weapon because they reclassified all handguns with barrels of 4.14" as prohibited and the grandfathering clause had expired in '95, so I bought a 6" barrel but they would not reregister my gun as restricted unless I turned in my 4" barrel which was now a prohibited device. Since there was no offer of compensation, I sat back and waited and finally in Oct'09 (over 5 yrs from beginning) I had 6 police officers show up with a warrant and they made it clear that they would tear my house apart looking for my barrel, which I ended up handing in. LEGALIZED THEFT in the not so GREAT WHITE NORTH
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I bought a 714 back in '91 with a 4" barrel, the new gun laws were brought in several years later and in Sept 2004 I decided to reg all my guns because the police were stopping hunters to see if their guns were registered. It took several months to receive the registration for my rifles and shotguns (this has now been abolished), aprox 1 year for 2 handguns and finally in Apr '08 I received notice to turn in my prohibited weapon because they reclassified all handguns with barrels of 4.14" as prohibited and the grandfathering clause had expired in '95, so I bought a 6" barrel but they would not reregister my gun as restricted unless I turned in my 4" barrel which was now a prohibited device. Since there was no offer of compensation, I sat back and waited and finally in Oct'09 (over 5 yrs from beginning) I had 6 police officers show up with a warrant and they made it clear that they would tear my house apart looking for my barrel, which I ended up handing in. LEGALIZED THEFT in the not so GREAT WHITE NORTH
This is truly terrifying, I'd really think that the police have more important issues than a 4" B/A. Unfortunately, my state of residence is becoming more repressive, with registration of AR-type rifles and "declaration" of magazines that exceed 10 round capacity.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
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March 25, 2013
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When liberals rail against automatic weapons they really mean any firearm that shoots a bullet when you pull the trigger. Your experience and that of Steve in Connecticutt are just steps along the way to outright banning of all firearms. First it is style of rifle (automatic weapons are already controlled) then capacity of rounds . That will ultimately be reduced , ruling out virtually all firearms . Barrel length is just another step. The really dangerous thing is registration which enables them to do all the other steps. If you do not register them you become a felon , not entitled to possess firearms. It is imperative to" fight "at every infringement of our constitutional right.
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