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Well, picked up my first Dan Wesson and took it to the range.  Wouldn't fire without jamming so the smith worked on it.  Wouldn't eject the mags and they would go in too far and get stuck, after 4 hours, 2 new mags (Wilson combat and nighthawk) and 2 boxes of ammo gave up, going to turn it back in for something else that actually works.  Shouldn't be the experience for spending 2k on a new firearm.

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Welcome to the forum from PA! Did you use the factory mags???? Wilson's have a reputation for over insertion problems, not sure what make the NH's are but try a Metalform, Checkmate, Chip McCormick type before you give up. Definitely sounds like a mag issue.

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605Dart said
Welcome to the forum from PA! Did you use the factory mags???? Wilson's have a reputation for over insertion problems, not sure what make the NH's are but try a Metalform, Checkmate, Chip McCormick type before you give up. Definitely sounds like a mag issue.

  

The issue started with the factory mags, that's why I bought the other two.  The gunsmith recommended if after he worked on it for a bit and couldn't get it ejecting properly.  When the mags were going in too far and getting stuck is when they said there wasn't anything they could do.

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April 2, 2022 - 10:32 pm
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Oh, and what type of jam? Nose up, FTRB, double feed, etc.

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605Dart said
What model?

  

DW ECP, 9mm BLK ALUMINUM BOBTAIL FRAME, BRASS BEAD FRONT/SERATED REAR SITE, G10 GRIPS, 4IN BULL BBL, 9RD

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605Dart said
Oh, and what type of jam? Nose up, FTRB, double feed, etc.

  

It jammed trying to feed from the clip, at the bottomed of the barrel, he solved that he said by trimming a spring?

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I know you won't want to hear this with a new pistol that you really want to shoot but, load the mags full and let them sit for a few days minimum, a week or more is optimal. This helps to set the new springs and will help with the feeding. The mags being tight in the magwell might be a usage type of break-in to have them fall free when pushing the mag release button. The tolerances are tight on a DW and they do have a fair amount of hand fitting but not as much as a Nighthawk, Ed Brown, etc. So there is a period of break in that you won't necessarily need from one of these semi-custom brands, but you're not paying $1500+++ more tho.

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605Dart said
I know you won't want to hear this with a new pistol that you really want to shoot but, load the mags full and let them sit for a few days minimum, a week or more is optimal. This helps to set the new springs and will help with the feeding. The mags being tight in the magwell might be a usage type of break-in to have them fall free when pushing the mag release button. The tolerances are tight on a DW and they do have a fair amount of hand fitting but not as much as a Nighthawk, Ed Brown, etc. So there is a period of break in that you won't necessarily need from one of these semi-custom brands, but you're not paying $1500+++ more tho.

  

Not my first firearm or firearm that is handbuilt.  First Dan Wesson for sure.  I've been shooting for over 30 years and own about 20 pistols alone.  The mag going in to far when loading?  Jamming on every shot?  Mags not releasing?  These are not issues you should expect, even with tight tolerances.  Maybe occasionally but not consistently.  The range masters tried their mags with the same issue so please don't try to tell me the mags just need worked in...

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Whatever, send it back, trade it, griping on a forum won't fix it.

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605Dart said
Whatever, send it back, trade it, griping on a forum won't fix it.

  

It will warn others about issues with quality.  I have no other way to tell the manufacturer or potential buyers about this.

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tcheeseman said
Well, picked up my first Dan Wesson and took it to the range.  Wouldn't fire without jamming so the smith worked on it.  Wouldn't eject the mags and they would go in too far and get stuck, after 4 hours, 2 new mags (Wilson combat and nighthawk) and 2 boxes of ammo gave up, going to turn it back in for something else that actually works.  Shouldn't be the experience for spending 2k on a new firearm.

  

Sounds like to me you should send it back to Dan Wesson. EVERY company has a bad one slip out once in awhile.

Maybe a different gunsmith will know how to fix the issue of the Mags?  

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Sorry to hear of your troubles.  Agree, definitely should send it in for warranty work.  Unfortunately every company produces a lemon now and then, but what makes a manufacturer stand apart is their service and standing behind their product when it happens.  Please let us know your outcome if you opt to persue warranty work.

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I will, thank you for the feedback.  I hope it works out as it is a really beautiful piece.

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Sorry to hear of your troubles.  Agree, definitely should send it in for warranty work.  Unfortunately every company produces a lemon now and then, but what makes a manufacturer stand apart is their service and standing behind their product when it happens.  Please let us know your outcome if you opt to persue warranty work.

  

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