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September 26, 2016
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moved to new members- rwsem
Hi there in Dan Wesson land. Its nice to see the revolvers and auto's are still as popular now as they were when I was the ballistician for DW for 10 years...After designing the 460 Supermag, starting the initial pressure tests on the 460 Rowland and 360 DW, and making the 445 Supermag an ever faster cartridge, I decided to retire and watch others enjoy a fine shooting line.....Best to you all...
DJ Bushman
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February 22, 2009
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Great to have you check in!
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Ron
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June 11, 2016
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Thanks for stopping by, do you still have inside contacts? They should start making barrels for the SM's and maybe bring them back!
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December 4, 2011
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Welcome to the forum, glad you signed up!
Please share your experiences of your time with DW, I'm sure you have some interesting stories.
I have a question maybe you can shed some light on. I have a 7460 Rowland I picked up that has the 460 Rowland laser etched on the shroud and a serial number of F350 RIDER. Someone suggested you may have an idea of the back story on that gun. If you do, I/we'd love to hear it.
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February 16, 2016
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DJ ... look forward to some stories.
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March 25, 2013
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Is the 460 supermag based on the 45Long Colt or the 45 acp? I have a 7460 but I suspect that is different than the supermag. Also, is there only one 7460 supermag? Lastly, WHERE ARE ALL THE 360s? Any idea how many were made?
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January 17, 2015
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Thanks for checking it - would love to hear more behind the scenes info you could share.
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February 1, 2016
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from Ohio, musta been a FUN job to have !!
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Welcome to the DW place. Don't panic, we may ask a lot of questions but we don't bite.
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May 26, 2015
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Welcome to the forum! When I read the word "Ballistician" I was thinking those giant arrow launching seige weapons! Then I saw that glorious fireball followed by the dead deer, you came to the right place!
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Welcome to the DWF! I consider you to be a true pioneer and a celebrity among Dan Wesson owners. I hope you stick around here and enlighten us as you can about the development during your time at Dan Wesson Firearms, particularly of the 460 Supermag.
-Brian
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January 24, 2009
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I forget if one of our members here has it, or if it was an auction pic, but somewhere I've seen a DW shroud with your name engraved on it. Pretty sure it was a 460 Rowland.
Anyway, it's great to have you join us... to the
August 28, 2009
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Charger Fan said
I forget if one of our members here has it, or if it was an auction pic, but somewhere I've seen a DW shroud with your name engraved on it. Pretty sure it was a 460 Rowland.
Really good memory.....
I picked it up from DJ several years back but have since sold it.
DJ - weren't you with Sierra Bullets testing the loads for the cartridges?? When I spoke to Bob several years back regarding the .460, he mentioned that you were with Sierra testing the loads, Johnny Rowland and Clarks developed the cartridge and he made the gun with DW.
September 26, 2016
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Ole Dog said
Is the 460 supermag based on the 45Long Colt or the 45 acp? I have a 7460 but I suspect that is different than the supermag. Also, is there only one 7460 supermag? Lastly, WHERE ARE ALL THE 360s? Any idea how many were made?
Its based on the 45 Win Mag case at a length of 1.610" and the web brought up to the mid point to make it stronger. There was two 460 SM made but mine was finished as a "production" EXP #1 since Serva didnt have the funds to pursue the cartridge any further. In my initial testing, and knowing what Smith and Wesson were working on "460 SW", the loads and pressure were exceeding the 460 SW substantial. Pressures were deemed operationally safe at 55,000 PSI with some loads reaching 61,000 PSI with no frame stretching or wear on case head. I used only Fed 210 primers since the pressures were of rifle loads. The nice thing about the 460 Supermag is that it shoots the 460 Rowland (in which I did the startup testing for Johnny Rowland), the 45 Win Mag and the 460 SM. Shot a few deer with it, but obviously, it was way too much gun for deer class animals. I previously owned 4 360 DW's and developed all inital testing. We started out with 357 maximum cases, reamed inside before Hayden got me brass, after the first brass run. It was the 445 Supermag that I was known well for as I redeveloped ammunition, proof loads, and all new reload suggestions.
September 26, 2016
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HarleySftl said
Charger Fan said
I forget if one of our members here has it, or if it was an auction pic, but somewhere I've seen a DW shroud with your name engraved on it. Pretty sure it was a 460 Rowland.Really good memory.....
I picked it up from DJ several years back but have since sold it.
DJ - weren't you with Sierra Bullets testing the loads for the cartridges?? When I spoke to Bob several years back regarding the .460, he mentioned that you were with Sierra testing the loads, Johnny Rowland and Clarks developed the cartridge and he made the gun with DW.
Rowland and I came up with the idea, after I suggested the longer 45 Win Mag case, at the 2000 Shot Show and then I started working on converted 284 cases to see where it would go. I then had Bertram Brass start making up cases to my specs and finally at the transition of DW, the project was dropped. I was on the Pro Staff for Sierra Bullets for many years, as well as for several other companies.
September 26, 2016
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Charger Fan said
I forget if one of our members here has it, or if it was an auction pic, but somewhere I've seen a DW shroud with your name engraved on it. Pretty sure it was a 460 Rowland.Anyway, it's great to have you join us...
My name was on numerous barrel shrouds....LOL
September 26, 2016
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lonwolf93 said
Welcome to the DWF! I consider you to be a true pioneer and a celebrity among Dan Wesson owners. I hope you stick around here and enlighten us as you can about the development during your time at Dan Wesson Firearms, particularly of the 460 Supermag.-Brian
Well thank you and very honored. I still have numerous pages written with notes when I was developing new cartridges, loads and improvements for DW.....LOL
September 26, 2016
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DJ_1 said
Its based on the 45 Win Mag case at a length of 1.610" and the web brought up to the mid point to make it stronger. There was two 460 SM made but mine was finished as a "production" EXP #1 since Serva didnt have the funds to pursue the cartridge any further. In my initial testing, and knowing what Smith and Wesson were working on "460 SW", the loads and pressure were exceeding the 460 SW substantial. Pressures were deemed operationally safe at 55,000 PSI with some loads reaching 61,000 PSI with no frame stretching or wear on case head. I used only Fed 210 primers since the pressures were of rifle loads. The nice thing about the 460 Supermag is that it shoots the 460 Rowland (in which I did the startup testing for Johnny Rowland), the 45 Win Mag and the 460 SM. Shot a few deer with it, but obviously, it was way too much gun for deer class animals. I previously owned 4 360 DW's and developed all inital testing. We started out with 357 maximum cases, reamed inside before Hayden got me brass, after the first brass run. It was the 445 Supermag that I was known well for as I redeveloped ammunition, proof loads, and all new reload suggestions.
Very interesting and informative, thank you for posting this. I didn't know you were also involved in the development of the 445SM...or maybe it slipped my mind.
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