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A reason not to live in NJ...
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Jody
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The case of a New Jersey man who is serving seven years in prison for possessing two locked and unloaded handguns he purchased legally in Colorado is a perfect example of how a law-abiding citizen can unwittingly become a criminal due to vastly differing gun laws among the states, gun rights experts say.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/02/new-jersey-gun-case-highlights-patchwork-state-gun-laws-relatives-experts-say/#ixzz170Stuqqg

This is nuts!

 
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I agree that the vastly differing laws and regulations from state to state are frustrating and difficult to decipher. In spite of the fact that I have a valid Carry Permit issued by the State of Connecticut, it would be illegal for me to carry in some cities in Connecticut, by city statutes.

An otherwise legally acquired pistol may be kept in either the home or place of business in CT, transporting it (by a non-permitted person) is an entirely different matter. This person evidently had a problem transporting his guns and it looks like he is having difficulty demonstrating that he was moving them as part of a change of residence.

The article noted that CT is also one of the five most restricitive states, which surprises me. I guess I've just gotten used to it, but once you have a Permit, it's not any real problem.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said:

I agree that the vastly differing laws and regulations from state to state are frustrating and difficult to decipher. In spite of the fact that I have a valid Carry Permit issued by the State of Connecticut, it would be illegal for me to carry in some cities in Connecticut, by city statutes.

An otherwise legally acquired pistol may be kept in either the home or place of business in CT, transporting it (by a non-permitted person) is an entirely different matter. This person evidently had a problem transporting his guns and it looks like he is having difficulty demonstrating that he was moving them as part of a change of residence.

The article noted that CT is also one of the five most restricitive states, which surprises me. I guess I've just gotten used to it, but once you have a Permit, it's not any real problem.


According to Handgunlaw.us, CT is reciprocal with 15 other states (Fl with 33).  These difficult, and arbitrary, laws prevented me from visiting family in Md this year (reciprocal w/13).  My personal policy is that I don't visit states where I can't legally carry. 

According to the law, I could transport from a residence to a range where I'd like to shoot.  I could also transport from Virginia into Md.  But the rules interpretations were so dicey (for example, a loaded magazine is considered a loaded weapon), that I opted to stay out of the entire state. 

"How have the mighty fallen..."  I once lived in Maryland.  I shot in pistol matches: in Md; at The NRA Range in downtown D.C.; Fort Totten in D.C.; Quantico, Va; Manassas, Va.  And earlier when I was going to college in Virginia, I twice shot in pistol matches at the Naval Academy in Annapolis.

Out of curiosity, how long did it take for you to get your CT carry permit?  I got my Fl carry permit 17 days after I mailed the application, 19 days after my Saturday class.  That may be a state record.

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In Kansas it is shall issue after a class / money /mug shot/ finger print/ it took 2 months to get it back. Welcome the USA!  Proud To Be An American

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I'm blessed to live in Virginia all my life and guess I'm taking to much for granite... although I do belong to the VCDL to make sure I keep my rights!

Here is some info from the Virginia State Police website:

As of July 1, 2010, a concealed handgun permit is not necessary when carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

Virginia does not require firearm registration nor is it necessary to obtain a permit before carrying a firearm or other such weapon openly about the person except where prohibited by statute.

The 1993 (Democrat Governor) Virginia General Assembly amended and reenacted §18.2-308.2:2, Code of Virginia, making it unlawful for any person who is not a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than 1 handgun within any 30-day period. The Virginia State Police is responsible for accepting and processing the Multiple Handgun Purchase Application and Multiple Handgun Purchase Certificate, when purchases in excess of one handgun within a 30-day period can be justified. Please refer to Multiple Handgun Purchase Applications in this web site.  There is no restriction on the number of rifles and shotguns that may be purchased during any period of time.

With the exception of machine guns, firearms are not registered in Virginia.

To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make, model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs. Additionally, Virginia’s handgun purchase limitation applies in private transactions.

If you are a concealed carry holder you can purchase as many hand guns as you would like.

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Jody said:

Here is some info from the Virginia State Police website:

As of July 1, 2010, a concealed handgun permit is not necessary when carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

Virginia does not require firearm registration nor is it necessary to obtain a permit before carrying a firearm or other such weapon openly about the person except where prohibited by statute.

The 1993 (Democrat Governor) Virginia General Assembly amended and reenacted §18.2-308.2:2, Code of Virginia, making it unlawful for any person who is not a licensed firearms dealer to purchase more than 1 handgun within any 30-day period. The Virginia State Police is responsible for accepting and processing the Multiple Handgun Purchase Application and Multiple Handgun Purchase Certificate, when purchases in excess of one handgun within a 30-day period can be justified. Please refer to Multiple Handgun Purchase Applications in this web site.  There is no restriction on the number of rifles and shotguns that may be purchased during any period of time.

With the exception of machine guns, firearms are not registered in Virginia.

To privately sell a firearm, it is recommended that you safeguard information pertaining to the transaction such as the date the firearm was sold, the complete name and address of the buyer, and the make, model, and serial number of the firearm. The seller and buyer of a handgun must be a resident of the state in which the transfer occurs. Additionally, Virginia’s handgun purchase limitation applies in private transactions.

If you are a concealed carry holder you can purchase as many hand guns as you would like.

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'Glad to see Va is still an "open carry" state; it was when I lived there.  The one-handgun-per-month thing is terrible tho'.  I can visualize stumbling across a cluster (2 or 3, or more) of "got-to-haves", and being frustrated at not being able to get them all at once.

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Anyone ever see that Jersey Shore Show ? That itself is enough to keep

me otta there !

 

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The one gun limit is not cool!  I know I bought 5 DW's from my dealer within a month a couple of years ago!  Luckily if you have a concealed carry permit you can purchase more.  Please the background check in Virginia is normally done within a minute or two.  

I know that repealing the one gun limit is on the list of to do items for the VCDL.  

 
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Jody said:

Luckily if you have a concealed carry permit you can purchase more.  

I know that repealing the one gun limit is on the list of to do items for the VCDL.  


That's better, I didn't understand the concealed-carry provision.

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Sounds like VA is about the same as UT, with the exception of the one per month rule. I have bought as many as six in one month & no CCP as of yet.Smile If I had to deal with one per month, myDWAS would have taken a serious beating.lol2

Regarding the thread topic, that is just insane! I have zero desire to go anywhere near NJ in my lifetime. I feel sorry for the gun owners living there, who have to put up with this sort of crap...Kommiefornia included.

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At the rate I buy guns, I'm on every watchlist there is Laugh....  I've bought 3 in the same day in different shops, 3 in the same shop at the same time, etc...

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