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Well, if our (CT) Legislature and socialist Governor have their way, they will ban any firearm "capable of firing over 10 rounds without reloading".

This will include any firearm that normally has a magazine capacity of 10 (or less) rounds, as long as a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds exists. 

Pretty much any Glock, SIG, M&P, 1911, Mini 14/30, AR, Ruger 10 22, etc.

This is a recommendation coming from the "Sandy Hook Commission"

Still not doing ANYTHING about mental illness or school security.

Like it or not, your state is only one incident away from this same kind of stupidity.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said
Well, if our (CT) Legislature and socialist Governor have their way, they will ban any firearm "capable of firing over 10 rounds without reloading".

This will include any firearm that normally has a magazine capacity of 10 (or less) rounds, as long as a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds exists. 

Pretty much any Glock, SIG, M&P, 1911, Mini 14/30, AR, Ruger 10 22, etc.

This is a recommendation coming from the "Sandy Hook Commission"

Still not doing ANYTHING about mental illness or school security.

Like it or not, your state is only one incident away from this same kind of stupidity.

I'm curious..... where is the NRA in all of this madness? I don't hear about them being engaged in CT at all.

To the paranoid people who check behind shower curtains for murderers:

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Sounds the like the folks in ya'lls states had better start getting the word out and rally against some crap.

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Actually I put this in the wrong Forum, sorry.

But, one last note before I open a new topic in the right place:

With the exception of some (not much) money to CCDL, the NRA was absent in the last fight that resulted in legislation that mandated state registration of "assault weapons" and magazines with a capacity over 10 rounds.

I complied with the law.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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ese927 said
Sounds the like the folks in ya'lls states had better start getting the word out and rally against some crap.

MD did exactly that.

The State house ran back a video feed showing an empty parking lot from a previous date & said "just a dissatisfied few" showed up. Unfortunately no-one thought to check why the video was made. It was the Governor addressing an empty square on a different item entirely while he was also physically inside the state house in full view of several hundred demonstrators.

During the hearings one of the anti-gun senators was caught playing online chess & completely ignoring the testimony being given.

Its like they don't even care about being caught lying anymore.whipping

Matthew Quigley on handguns:

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Steve CT said
Well, if our (CT) Legislature and socialist Governor have their way, they will ban any firearm "capable of firing over 10 rounds without reloading".

This will include any firearm that normally has a magazine capacity of 10 (or less) rounds, as long as a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds exists. 

Pretty much any Glock, SIG, M&P, 1911, Mini 14/30, AR, Ruger 10 22, etc.

This is a recommendation coming from the "Sandy Hook Commission"

Still not doing ANYTHING about mental illness or school security.

Like it or not, your state is only one incident away from this same kind of stupidity.

Are they going to ban the firearm, or make the mags be pinned to 10?  We have the 10 round limit in Canada on pistols and semi automatic center fired guns.  Rimfire is no limit with rifles, but again 10 if a pistol.

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Magazines exceeding 10 rounds needed to be declared to the state prior to 12/31/13. I have a declaration listing all the magazines that I own that hold more than 10 rounds.

The intent of this new recommendation would be to ban any firearm that will accept a magazine over 10 rounds, any firearm with an internal capacity over 10 rounds, or any firearm whose internal capacity can be enlarged/extended to over 10 rounds. NO GRANDFATHERING!

This means any firearm that can accept a magazine over 10 rounds, even if you do not own a magazine over 10 rounds. If the 10+ magazine exists, the gun will be banned if this becomes law.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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To the paranoid people who check behind shower curtains for murderers:

if you find one...what's your plan?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Steve CT said
Magazines exceeding 10 rounds needed to be declared to the state prior to 12/31/13. I have a declaration listing all the magazines that I own that hold more than 10 rounds.

The intent of this new recommendation would be to ban any firearm that will accept a magazine over 10 rounds, any firearm with an internal capacity over 10 rounds, or any firearm whose internal capacity can be enlarged/extended to over 10 rounds. NO GRANDFATHERING!

This means any firearm that can accept a magazine over 10 rounds, even if you do not own a magazine over 10 rounds. If the 10+ magazine exists, the gun will be banned if this becomes law.

Woah.  I though we had some silly liberal gun laws; what you are saying about what CT wants to implement would be somewhere I wouldn't want to live with such gun laws.  Hello Arizona?  ;)

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And I'm guessing 10 round 22 revolvers would be caught up too..

I can execute a magazine change with an 8 round magazine just as fast as with a 10 or better round magazine...  capacity has NOTHING to do with the problem of a mentally ill boy killing his mother and stealing weapons from the home to kill others.... 

Come on down Steve.  Plenty of gun room for you in Louisiana.

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brucertx said
Does that apply to rifles with a tubular magazine?

Yes, as long as it can fire over 10 rounds without reloading

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And I'm guessing 10 round 22 revolvers would be caught up too..

I can execute a magazine change with an 8 round magazine just as fast as with a 10 or better round magazine...  capacity has NOTHING to do with the problem of a mentally ill boy killing his mother and stealing weapons from the home to kill others.... 

Come on down Steve.  Plenty of gun room for you in Louisiana.

A 10 round revolver would be fine, in fact pretty much any revolver would be

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I can execute a magazine change with an 8 round magazine just as fast as with a 10 or better round magazine...  capacity has NOTHING to do with the problem of a mentally ill boy killing his mother and stealing weapons from the home to kill others.... 

This side of the argument has been debated up here as well, with video demonstrations showing that a well trained shooter can shoot almost at identical speeds even though they had smaller capacity magazines.  Nonetheless, changing a law once implemented is an extremely uphill battle. 

 

Our laws on this matter only allow 5 round magazines for semi-auto centre fire rifles but a magazine can be pinned to 5 rounds, regardless of size.  If you get caught with a "prohibited" gun/magazine then it can mean up to a 5 year jail sentence.  Hand guns can only have 10 round magazines (so, in essence, they can hold 10+1).  Therefore, all of our Glock, Sig, etc mags are all 10 round mags in Canada.  I've always been envious of the larger mags down south.

 

Going after the tubular mag guns though is silly.  There are many old Winchester levers that will hold 11 44MAG bullets.  Outright prohibiting any gun with a capacity over 10 is silly.  I hope this law/recommendation does not go forth, it is truly a step back for your rights.

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Steve CT said

The intent of this new recommendation would be to ban any firearm that will accept a magazine over 10 rounds, any firearm with an internal capacity over 10 rounds, or any firearm whose internal capacity can be enlarged/extended to over 10 rounds. NO GRANDFATHERING!

This means any firearm that can accept a magazine over 10 rounds, even if you do not own a magazine over 10 rounds. If the 10+ magazine exists, the gun will be banned if this becomes law.

So therefore it could also cover full sized 1911s? I have seen several makers who offered long stick high capacity mags for 1911s, I have also seen a drum mag for 1911s.

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Absolutely includes 1911's. 

I can't say this any any more clearly: If there is a firearm that can can fire over 10 rounds without reloading, it may end up being banned in Connecticut (The Constitution State). What a joke!

Tube fed .22 lr rifles at 10+, shotguns that can accept magazine extenders to increase to 10+, pistols for which a magazine over 10 rounds exists or has ever been manufactured. This also takes out the Mini 14, which did not fall into the earlier "ban", and will now include the Ruger 10/22, Winchester Model 1873, which will accept 11 .38 Special rounds, ...

This is potentially the biggest step backwards for Second Amendment rights in recent history. The NRA was non existent in CT two years ago, and does not seem to give a crap about this now.

If this goes thru, I lose an AR, two 1911's, Ruger LCP, S&W Model 59.

Also, since the verbiage on this is "more than 10 without reloading" where do the Buckmark/Ruger MK I/II/III's, Ruger SR 22, Sig Mosquito, Neos, Woodsman, High Standards ... fall into this. They are mostly 10 +1 capable firearms.

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I nominate that we change the name of CT to California of the East.

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Someone needs to contact the NRA, GOA, AND ANYONE ELSE who will fight for 2 A  rights. And every gun owner and family members needs to flood email accts and phone switch boards in the office of your state and local legislators and US Congressmen and Senators..... every single day. Organize a rally at your states capitol. I cannot believe a handful of folks can run the show...

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