September 7, 2011
Glock 20 10mm I put punisher Slide plate and floor plate on it to break up the monotony of the black brick , also got 2 15rd mags for it , floor plug , 10mm to .40 conversion barrel and Im debating on whether to get a 6 inch ported Lone Wolf 10mm barrel and tru glow TFO night sights .
" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin
September 7, 2011
Blacktop said:
Nice G ! They seem to like the lighter bullets better than any other
manufacture, let us know how it runs .
-Blacktop
Yea my first glock ... I got double tap 50 rds 165 jhp and 50 180 JHP to start off with ... so well see how they go ... im probably pick up some underwood 10mm too hear lotta good things bout them .
" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin
September 7, 2011
Pinetor said:
Good looking Glock. With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!
Congratz!
I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging .... what say you ?
" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin
Gh0zt36 said:
Pinetor said:
Good looking Glock. With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!
Congratz!
I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging .... what say you ?
The big problem with Glocks is in the .40. The .40 S&W is a study in compromise, in order to fit it into a 9mm frame they had to really push the envelope of packaging. Thus if you load 180 grain bullets into .40 S&W brass there is very little room left.
As a result even very minor setback can cause disproportionate spikes in pressure. Hornady did a test a while back and found that an extra .100" seating depth took pressures up to 65,000 PSI!!! That's more than a 30-06. If I could remember where I read it I'd link to it.
The 10mm and .45 ACP have much more case capacity and don't have the same problem.
When I do load for the .40, I stick with 165 and lighter bullets for this reason.
Stick w/ published loads and you won't have any problems loading the 10mm
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Range Officers
May 2, 2009
Reloading 10mm is no more dangerous than any other caliber--and none of it is dangerous if you follow the rules and common sense. The problem is the unsupported barrels in the glock--with 40 this is more of an issue due to the thinner case design. 10mm has a much heavier case design.
SHOOT
September 7, 2011
NVGdude said:
Gh0zt36 said:
Pinetor said:
Good looking Glock. With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!
Congratz!
I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging .... what say you ?
The big problem with Glocks is in the .40. The .40 S&W is a study in compromise, in order to fit it into a 9mm frame they had to really push the envelope of packaging. Thus if you load 180 grain bullets into .40 S&W brass there is very little room left.
As a result even very minor setback can cause disproportionate spikes in pressure. Hornady did a test a while back and found that an extra .100" seating depth took pressures up to 65,000 PSI!!! That's more than a 30-06. If I could remember where I read it I'd link to it.
The 10mm and .45 ACP have much more case capacity and don't have the same problem.
When I do load for the .40, I stick with 165 and lighter bullets for this reason.
Stick w/ published loads and you won't have any problems loading the 10mm
I actually bought a Lone Wolf 10mm to .40 conversion barrel , theres a little ammo shop near me sells .40 for 13 bucks per 50 So I think thats fairly reasonable ill give them a go see how they run
" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin
February 11, 2010
The early Gen 1 Glock feed ramp and chamber support was the one
that got all the buzz.
That has been adressed and changed a couple times now. I don't
believe there is any problem with any Gen 3 or Gen 4 Glock.
Now when it comes to Double Tap ammo…I''ve got a problem I had two case
head ruptures from weak 10mm brass….
-Blacktop
September 7, 2011
wow I got 100rds of double tap 50 180gr and 50 165gr ... what 10mm was it in? could that blow my glock up? I also took out stock barrel and am using a Lonewolf 10mm barrel too . think that will help with the DT failure?
" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin
February 11, 2010
What KB's I had was with the 180gr Controlled expansion, My Colt
Delta Elite did not have a full supported barrel but the feed ramp is
not nearly cut back as the First Generation Glocks either.
10mm brass is(or is suppose to be) alot thicker at the case head for the
very purpose of supporting the higher pressures the 10mm dishes out.
If pressures are kept at SAMMI max or less you should have no problem.
Especially if you are using Star-line brass, I have even shot some max loads
and not even a slightest bulge/smiley even showed on the case head when
using Star-line brass.
Double Tap ammo is about 10-20 % lower pressure than SAMMI max
and is an approved ammo by all major firearms manufactures, search
the web and you will find DT velocity ratings are way over rated as well.
The stuff that list at 1350fps is lucky if it gets 1200fps.
When I sent my Delta and ammo to the Colt to see if any thing was wrong
the reported cause was weak brass. This happened not once but twice
on two different batches of ammo. I ended up sending 6 boxes back to
Double Tap for a refund which was a long drawled out process and their
so so attitude and lack luster response time left a real bad taste in my
mouth so as you can tell I don't have much nice to say about them.
You on the other hand have the Lonewolf 10mm barrel which I believe
is a fully supported chamber…right? If so I would have no worries with
using it, alot of guy's at GlockTalk shoot some way over pressured stuff
with the fully supported barrels. Also my problem was back in Feb 2011
so were alot of other complaints, Google DoubleTap KB's or
DoubleTap case head ruptures. .
No doubt DT probably already has addressed the issue with the weak
brass by now….you would hope .
-Blacktop
September 7, 2011
Yes , I believe the lone wolf bbl is if not fully supported def better than the stock barrel. I just got 100 rds of Underwood 180gr golden saber 10mm Very nice looking ammo well see how it runs ... and Kevin underwood says itll compete @ DT's CLAIMED vel and energy too which is awesome ... that means the underwood is full house ammo should be pretty fun to shoot .
http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto180graingoldensaberbrassjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx
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