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Gh0zt36
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Glock 20 10mm  I put punisher Slide plate and floor plate on it to break up the monotony of the black brick  , also got 2 15rd mags for it , floor plug , 10mm to .40 conversion barrel  and Im debating on whether to get a 6 inch ported Lone Wolf 10mm barrel and tru glow TFO night sights .

" Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch , Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote " - Ben Franklin

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Good looking Glock.  With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!

 

Congratz!

Soap Box, Ballot Box, Ammo Box

in that order.

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laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing 

 

We can all see how excited you got in pic 3 lol2.

 

Nice G ! They seem to like the lighter bullets better than any other

manufacture, let us know how it runs . range-time

 

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Now that is a great Christmas present even if you brought it yourself, the best kind.

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laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing 

 

 

Nice G ! They seem to like the lighter bullets better than any other

manufacture, let us know how it runs . range-time

 

-Blacktop

 

laughinglaughingoccasion

 

Yea my first glock ... I got double tap 50 rds 165 jhp and 50 180 JHP  to start off with ... so well see how they go ... im probably pick up some underwood 10mm too hear lotta good things bout them .

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Pinetor said:

Good looking Glock.  With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!

 

Congratz!

I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging    .... what say you ?

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Gh0zt36 said:

Pinetor said:

Good looking Glock.  With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!

 

Congratz!

I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging    .... what say you ?

The big problem with Glocks is in the .40.  The .40 S&W is a study in compromise, in order to fit it into a 9mm frame they had to really push the envelope of packaging.  Thus if you load 180 grain bullets into .40 S&W brass there is very little room left.

As a result even very minor setback can cause disproportionate spikes in pressure.  Hornady did a test a while back and found that an extra .100" seating depth took pressures up to 65,000 PSI!!!  That's more than a 30-06.  If I could remember where I read it I'd link to it.

The 10mm and .45 ACP have much more case capacity and don't have the same problem.

When I do load for the .40, I stick with 165 and lighter bullets for this reason.

Stick w/ published loads and you won't have any problems loading the 10mm

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Thats a nice looking 10 mm. A very nice Xmas present. Enjoy.

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Reloading 10mm is no more dangerous than any other caliber--and none of it is dangerous if you follow the rules and common sense.  The problem is the unsupported barrels in the glock--with 40 this is more of an issue due to the thinner case design.  10mm has a much heavier case design.

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NVGdude said:

Gh0zt36 said:

Pinetor said:

Good looking Glock.  With all those big clips... your next hobby is reloading!

 

Congratz!

I hear reloading 10mm can be dangerous ... glocks dont have good case support and you run into case fatigue / bulging    .... what say you ?

The big problem with Glocks is in the .40.  The .40 S&W is a study in compromise, in order to fit it into a 9mm frame they had to really push the envelope of packaging.  Thus if you load 180 grain bullets into .40 S&W brass there is very little room left.

As a result even very minor setback can cause disproportionate spikes in pressure.  Hornady did a test a while back and found that an extra .100" seating depth took pressures up to 65,000 PSI!!!  That's more than a 30-06.  If I could remember where I read it I'd link to it.

The 10mm and .45 ACP have much more case capacity and don't have the same problem.

When I do load for the .40, I stick with 165 and lighter bullets for this reason.

Stick w/ published loads and you won't have any problems loading the 10mm

I actually bought a Lone Wolf 10mm to .40 conversion barrel , theres a little ammo shop near me sells .40 for 13 bucks per 50  So I think thats fairly reasonable  ill give them a go see how they run proud-to-be-an-american

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The early Gen 1 Glock feed ramp and chamber support was the one

that got all the buzz.

 

That has been adressed and changed a couple times now. I don't

believe there is any problem with any Gen 3 or Gen 4 Glock.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now when it comes to Double Tap ammo…I''ve got a problem I had two case

head ruptures from weak 10mm brass….

 

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wow I got 100rds of double tap   50 180gr and 50 165gr ...  what 10mm was it in? could that blow my glock up? I also took out stock barrel and am using a Lonewolf 10mm barrel too . think that will help with the DT failure?

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What KB's I had was with the 180gr Controlled expansion, My Colt

Delta Elite did not have a full supported barrel but the feed ramp is

not nearly cut back as the First Generation Glocks either.

 

10mm brass is(or is suppose to be) alot thicker at the case head for the

very purpose of supporting the higher pressures the 10mm dishes out.

If pressures are kept at SAMMI max or less you should have no problem.

Especially if you are using Star-line brass, I have even shot some max loads

and not even a slightest bulge/smiley even showed on the case head when

using Star-line brass.

 

Double Tap ammo is about 10-20 % lower pressure than SAMMI max

and is an approved ammo by all major firearms manufactures, search

the web and you will find DT velocity ratings are way over rated as well.

The stuff that list at 1350fps is lucky if it gets 1200fps.

 

When I sent my Delta and ammo to the Colt to see if any thing was wrong

the reported cause was weak brass. This happened not once but twice

on two different batches of ammo. I ended up sending 6 boxes back to

Double Tap for a refund which was a long drawled out process and their

so so attitude and lack luster response time left a real bad taste in my

mouth so as you can tell I don't have much nice to say about them.

 

You on the other hand have the Lonewolf 10mm barrel which I believe

is a fully supported chamber…right?  If so I would have no worries with

using it, alot of guy's at GlockTalk shoot some way over pressured stuff

with the fully supported barrels. Also my problem was back in Feb 2011

so were alot of other complaints, Google DoubleTap KB's or

DoubleTap  case head ruptures. .

No doubt DT probably already has addressed the issue with the weak

brass by now….you would hope wow.

 

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Yes , I believe the lone wolf bbl is if not fully supported def better than the stock barrel.   I just got 100 rds of Underwood 180gr golden saber 10mm Very nice looking ammo well see how it runs ... and Kevin underwood says itll compete @ DT's CLAIMED vel and energy too which is awesome ... that means the underwood is full house ammo  should be pretty fun to shoot .

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto180graingoldensaberbrassjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspxproud-to-be-an-american

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