Avatar
Please consider registering
Guest
Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Register Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Catastrophic failure
Avatar
Wbrco
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 31
Member Since:
February 3, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 11, 2024 - 3:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Only a small cut on my left knuckle.

Load was (supposed to be) 9gr HS-6 Sierra 158 JHP 8360, Rem 5 1/2.

Only other note was that the top strap had been drilled and tapped with a 6-40 thread for a scope mount.

Forensics to follow.

IMG_20240511_140343_01.jpgImage Enlarger

IMG_20240511_140346_01.jpgImage Enlarger

Avatar
DA....64
Wisconsin

Supporter
Members


DWF Supporters
Forum Posts: 1590
Member Since:
June 11, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
Avatar
snake-eye
Fort Myers, Florida
Member
Members


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 1967
Member Since:
December 5, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 11, 2024 - 3:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print
Avatar
3ric
NC
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 607
Member Since:
October 17, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 11, 2024 - 4:23 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Very good to know that you suffered only a minor injury. This is usually the case from what I’ve read about these kinds of failures. Still, count your blessings! Do let us know what you’re able to find out forensically. This photo gives me the ebeegeebies.

Avatar
605Dart
SW PA
Member

DWF Supporters
Forum Posts: 1074
Member Since:
July 12, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 11, 2024 - 5:14 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Glad you weren't injured!

This happened to me last week with an unknown supercharged 10mm.

20240504_080338.jpgImage Enlarger

20240504_082339.jpgImage Enlarger
20240504_082347.jpgImage Enlarger

Split the barrel in half! Glad the remaining rounds in the mag didn't ignite. A small lapse in diligence at the press cost me several $K's, and some dirty underwear. LOL

Avatar
KurtB
Pleasant Plains, Illinois
Member

Dans Club
Forum Posts: 1409
Member Since:
February 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
Avatar
Charger Fan
Northern Utah

Supporter
Members


Moderators
Forum Posts: 11176
Member Since:
January 24, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
May 11, 2024 - 8:58 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Holy 'chit! wow For a 15-2 to blow apart that bad, there was definitely something major going on. I assume there is no squib in the barrel, or you would have mentioned it?

Glad both you guys are okay!

Avatar
Stmstan 445
Phoenix, Arizona
Member

DWF Supporters
Forum Posts: 813
Member Since:
March 28, 2023
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
May 11, 2024 - 11:51 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Wait so the shell blew up in the cylinder and that blew off the top strap? That crazy sounds like something bad done in the reloading process? I never seen a cylinder blown apart like that!

Avatar
racepres
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 80
Member Since:
May 6, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
May 12, 2024 - 8:10 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Holy Overload Batman!!! Takes alot more than 9 grains of HS-6 to do that!! I wonder if 18 grains could do that??

Glad no one seriously injured, I wouldn't even want to be next door!!!

Avatar
Scout728
North Texas
Member

Dans Club
Forum Posts: 847
Member Since:
December 7, 2020
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
10
May 12, 2024 - 11:36 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Glad you are okay.   I always worry about squib in the barrel.   I just shot 90 rounds of lead cast, 40+ year old reloads, and there were many that sounded like squibs.  Pain to empty the cylinder so many times and run a dowel the barrel.

Avatar
3ric
NC
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 607
Member Since:
October 17, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
May 12, 2024 - 3:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Stmstan 445 said
Wait so the shell blew up in the cylinder and that blew off the top strap? That crazy sounds like something bad done in the reloading process? I never seen a cylinder blown apart like that!

  

Just google  “blown up revolvers”, there are many photos similar to Wbrco’s shown there. Depending on how bad the over pressure was (regardless of the cause) there are many variations. Sometimes the top strap is bulged up a little, or a lot. Sometimes it’s missing altogether, but in almost all instances the cylinder is blown apart. Weakest link? I think when the cylinder fails it becomes a “grenade” under the top strap. 

Avatar
Steve S.
Hopkinsville Ky.
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 362
Member Since:
February 8, 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12
May 12, 2024 - 6:08 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Steve S.

Avatar
DakotaJack
SD
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 1724
Member Since:
August 28, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
13
May 12, 2024 - 10:12 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Holy Moley - that's one crazy explosion.  It blew the cylinder apart and then blasted the top strap off - dang!!  Glad to hear you walked away with only a small cut.  It really puts the meaning of "wear eye protection" into perspective.  Wow.

Avatar
Stmstan 445
Phoenix, Arizona
Member

DWF Supporters
Forum Posts: 813
Member Since:
March 28, 2023
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
14
May 17, 2024 - 6:38 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

So is this caused by an overloaded Shell? I know nothing about re-loading can this happen with purchased ammo or because when re-loading you use to much powder? Just wondering!

Avatar
racepres
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 80
Member Since:
May 6, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
15
May 17, 2024 - 10:15 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Stmstan 445 said
So is this caused by an overloaded Shell? I know nothing about re-loading can this happen with purchased ammo or because when re-loading you use to much powder? Just wondering!

  

Basically Yes...too much, or usually Wrong, Powder

Avatar
KurtB
Pleasant Plains, Illinois
Member

Dans Club
Forum Posts: 1409
Member Since:
February 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
16
May 19, 2024 - 11:18 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Likely a powder with too fast of a burn rate which builds pressure too quickly for the application.

DW-15-2VH15-7-Barrel-Super-Pac.jpeg

Avatar
racepres
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 80
Member Since:
May 6, 2024
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
17
May 19, 2024 - 6:16 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

KurtB said
Likely a powder with too fast of a burn rate which builds pressure too quickly for the application.

  

Unlikely that was simply too fast a Powder...Likely too Much of Too Fast a Powder

Had a Not too swift Friend, believed in 90% fill on powder...did it with Red Dot...in his 44...Now he Aint got a 44!!

God Made Manuals for a Reason!!!

Avatar
KurtB
Pleasant Plains, Illinois
Member

Dans Club
Forum Posts: 1409
Member Since:
February 24, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
18
May 19, 2024 - 6:46 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Yea that’s true, probably the combination of too fast and too much!

DW-15-2VH15-7-Barrel-Super-Pac.jpeg

Avatar
Wbrco
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 31
Member Since:
February 3, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
19
May 19, 2024 - 6:50 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Update:

Finally had time today. As soon as I went to zero my trusty 5-0-5 scale I knew what happened. 

Somehow I had bumped or moved the heavy bar fro 0 to 10. This had to be before I set my Lee Auto Drum, which is odd as I as a habit to always zero the scale when starting.

So the result was 19gr of HS-6, not 9gr. I did confirm by pulling all the rounds an re-measuring.

I do look at the fill in the case and weigh about every 10 rounds, but if the scale is set wrong that doesnt do much. 

Last year I finally broke down and bought a chineesium digital scale. So, from now on, a second check will be done prior to starting actual loading.

Allen

Avatar
3ric
NC
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 607
Member Since:
October 17, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
20
May 19, 2024 - 7:52 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

So unfortunate, Wbrco. Accidents happen; that’s just part of life. The good news is that you were not seriously injured. Guns can be replaced; eyesight cannot. It’s an experience you won’t likely forget. Best of luck going forward.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 658
Currently Online: Different Drummer, Scout728
Guest(s) 67
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Steve: 10330
SHOOTIST357: 4788
Dave_Ks: 4300
Ole Dog: 4085
Stinger: 3460
Supermagfan: 3254
zoommb: 3161
IHMSA80x80: 3014
Blacktop: 3004
brucertx: 2311
Newest Members:
DavidCot
mrpistol43
Wittype
americangolfpro
KeonalayTieme
Scott England
AKimovd
Bob253615
jackjack53
EQiblySap
Forum Stats:
Groups: 11
Forums: 42
Topics: 16851
Posts: 148444

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 87
Members: 11703
Moderators: 4
Admins: 1
Administrators: Jody
Moderators: lbruce, Charger Fan, rwsem, SCORPIO