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DA....64
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I have a Dillon idexing reloader I used for my 9MM but their are no dies available for 357 Super Mags  I just got my first 357 SM and am debating reloading or just buying the ammo.  What reloader would you recommend is it a press type as you can see Inam a novice  

 

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Any single stage press will work for you.  I prefer red, green, or orange ones....

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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I think I will order a pink one to help out breast cancer awareness.  Really any information would be greatly appreciated, what make and type of press, etc.?

 

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All color presses work well as Ron put it. But most guys will tell you for a single stage press the RCBS rock chucker seems to be the gold standard.

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My go-to single stage is a Forster but it's a bit expensive for a novice investment.  Really, any of the others will do- look in the local pawn shops for a good deal on a used one.  I started on Lee 35 years ago and have owned Lyman, RCBS, Hornady, and a few home-made single stage presses. 

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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I started with a Lee Classic Turret press (Red) and love it.

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Thanks much!  In 357 Super Mag what bullet, primers and powder do you recommend?

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I prefer the hornady 180 gr xtphp bullets and have good luck with the h110 and imr 4227 powders. use the mag primers if you can find them. good luck.

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I load my 357 SM rounds on a Dillon XL650 using regular 357 mag dies.  I have a dedicated tool head for the 357 SM so I don't have to change die settings between 357mag and MAX.  All you have to do is set the dies a little further out.  
I use 44 mag dies to load 445 SM, and 41 mag dies to load 414 SM rounds all on the XL650, no problems.

Which press do you have?  

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I have a Dillon and thanks for your information as Dillon does not make dies required may hsve to sell on Ebay and purchase new one.

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I have a Dillon and thanks for your information as Dillon does not make dies required may hsve to sell on Ebay and purchase new one.  

Just to make sure and I don't intend to sound critical but you don't have to use Dillon dies in a Dillon press. Get a good set of carbide dies and go to town.  The length of the Lee dies in a Dillon may present a challenge, depending on the press model. You may have to install the lock ring on the bottom of the toolhead.

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I was told that other dies were too long for the press, maybe I will just order the set of three and see.

 

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All my dies are Dillon, they do make them in 357, 44 and 41 mag, just set them out a little bit.  Their dies should fit the 550,.650,and 1050 presses.  

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I took my Dillon reloader out first time in twenty years it is a Square Deal model and went to their website they did not show a 357 conversion kit for it.  It has 9MM dies in it now.

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I don't know much about the square deal press, but Dillon has a great customer service.  Before you toss the press, call them and see what they have for it.  They may even trade it on an upgraded press.

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Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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Lots of the silhouette shooters of the SuperMag use H110 /W296 or 4227 with a 180 grain cast SWC GC.  I would suggest a Semi Wad Cutter (SWC) with gas check (GC) to hold leading down.  That bullet can get over 1600fps fairly easy and if too soft, it can lead the barrel without the gas check.

I love the 4227.  

The H110 / W296 is hot, slow powder that does not play well with light loads.  Hogdon says there may be ignition problems with light loads or non Magnum primers.  They are concerned with squibs if downloaded from the upper end by more than 3%.

I state this because I tend to go light rather that heavy with my magnum and maximum rounds.  That recoil can kick my ass pretty hard so I just back off the recipe a touch.  You should not do this with H110 or W296.

 

So, if you want the highest velocity and the biggest recoil, go with the H110.

If you want the flat shooting, medium velocity, and low recoil; back off the upper 4227 recipe by 15%.

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Dave (Pete) said that George at Black Dog Ammunition told him they use 4227 in their ammo, but he thought it was a bit dirty.  I bought H110 because I can use it in all my Magnum & SuperMag loads.

Ole Dog told me that the Maximum round does not like light loads, with poor external & terminal ballistics and it's best stay near maximum (pun intended) loadings.  Not at Precision Cartridge pressures though.

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