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June 11, 2016
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I tried to locate information on this topic but was not successful. My cylinder does not always fully advance should this be taken care of by a gunsmith?
The ejector rod seeks fine and also the grip screw is not in to tight.
October 26, 2008
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Yes, your hand is worn it will only get worse.
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June 11, 2016
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Is the disassembly of a large frame the same as the small frame tune-up? I answered my own question and know it is not any instruction on disassemble of large frame? Where is a good place to buy a new hand checked EWK did not see them there? Thanks
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March 2, 2008
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I just looked around on DWF and the Large Frame tutorial does not seem to be available due to Hosting restrictions (all of my photos are are in prison as well?.
Working on it, please be patient.
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I appreciate your efforts Steve and do you have a source for a new hand? Thanks
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Dans Club
February 22, 2009
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It may not be the hand- it could be the extractor as well/ instead or may just need a good cleaning. You're on the right path; disassemble and clean first.
Although the pics are in limbo, the instructions are fairly easy to follow. Check here and let us know if you get stuck.
Hands and extractors were available from DW. They won't ship to the average Joe but you can use a C&R or FFL to get the parts.
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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I cleaned as well as I can without taking it apart for sure. The extractor seems to be in good order, nothing bent and moves fine. The star I believe it is called on the extractor looks ok but may have wear. I will be patient but willing to replace what is required checked out EWK it appears they do have them. Does Wesson still sell the parts, to bad Toltec is retired.
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February 22, 2009
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take it apart- don't be afraid...
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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July 2, 2011
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Ron's right. Take it apart and clean it first. I had a similar situation with 7445. Cleaned it. reassembled it. Runs like a champ.
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I agree that you should totally disassemble and give the revolver a good cleaning to see it that fixes it. It hopefully will..But if not IMHO.... , you have two choices to speed up slow timing. You can gently peen the extractor using a flat head punch on the slow cylinders. This basically compensates for the wear that eventually happens on the extractor. Second choice would be to get a new oversize hand and properly fit it to achieve the proper timing. New hands probably need some amount of fitting 80% of the time. Both of your choices typically will have you assembling and disassembling the gun a few times until it is "just right" You Tube may have how to videos ? Good Luck
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There is one video one You Tube it is not very helpful but will attempt to take it apart tomorrow. What do you recommend to clean parts? Wish me luck!
October 26, 2008
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Clean it absolutely but I'd be prepared to have a hand fitted. It is not that difficult patience is required. They are available directly from DW, numrich/egunparts, jack first and their is even an ebay seller selling them. Ebay Link
This is what I do to fit a new hand:
Measure your old hand make sure the new one is thicker than the old. Lightly sand with 400 grit sandpaper the front edge that it rides on and the sides (just deburring and making sure it is smooth not polishing I don't even remove the bluing). On the front right side of the old hand there should be an area that is filled down (looks like a step down) measure the thickness of that. Usually you can file to .010 to .015 away from that and be really close, assuming the 2 are similar overall thicknesses, when in doubt you can just file and try several times especially if they are substantially different thicknesses. You'll have to put the transfer bar in when checking but leave the hammer out you can check it by just cycling the trigger. At some point it will carry up but be tight it may even lock the trigger back where you have to pull it to return. At that point using a fine stone or your file as a backer or something flat to sand the step that you filed until it carries up, locks smoothly and allows the trigger to return. I leave mine just a little tight it's hard to describe they lock smoothly but there is a certain amount of resistance locking which goes away after shooting it after 50 rounds or so.
October 26, 2008
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Hopefully you don't have to do this in order to get it. I have had to do it twice, my 741 and my Dad's 744, with a 3rd coming (my 7445). A brand new hand from DW was not wide enough to carry up tightly so it needed more thickness. I wish EWK would offer extra thick large frame and small frame hands.
As to the suggestion of peening the ratchet I will say this hands are under $30 ratcherts and cylinder's are several hundred which also generally will require a trip back to DW. A general rule that I was told by an old gunsmith is: always mess with the cheapest and easiest to replace part. That's my .02.
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I have had it apart this morning and just got it back together. Getting the hand and safety mechanism back up through frame was the most difficult used a needle nose pliers and three hands. I am going to check the rotation soon taking a break first. I will report back and edit this post with results. I want to thank everyone for there help and input. Talk with you soon!
*** Well after cycling cylinder 36 times it worked perfectly, no short cycles! It was not really that dirty inside but I used CLP and cleaned it and all is wells Thanks to all those helped me out. It seems to be a success! ***
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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One other thing to look at with a DW revolver that does not easily lock the cylinder in is the cylinder latch function (clean and well lubricated) , and the notch in the frame where the cylinder latch locks in (clean with no powder buildup).
The front cylinder lock DW design lends itself to issues with powder/lead residue in the latch mechanism because it is in front of the cylinder.
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