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February 28, 2012 - 3:55 pm
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confused I reloaded some 445 SM cartridges last night for the first time.  I have a set of RCBS 445 SM dies and I'm using a Dillon XL650 press.  Since the case is the same diameter as the 44 mag, I'm using the 44 mag calbier conversion kit from Dillon along with the 445 dies.  I'm having a problem getting previously fired cased fully resized.  I have the resize/deprime die fully screwed down to the shell plate and I still get a small amount of the case by the head that isn't in the die.  When I try these rounds in the cyl of my 445SM I have to push them in the last 1/16" to 1/8".  I'm sure I can shoot these, I just would like them to drop in like new brass does.  Any ideas or anybody else have this happen?

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I used both 44 mag dies and then later 445SM dies and have never had this occurence.  I use a single stage rock chucker though, maybe some difference in the adjustment as compared to the Dillon?

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Must be the difference in the presses.  I use a Forster co-ax and haven't had an issue w/ bulges either.  Someone w/ a Dillon is bound to chime in….

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Its not actually a bulge, its just not getting resized all the way down, so the shell is a little bigger right above the case head.  I called Dillon and they said to crank the die down until its tight to the shell plate, which is not what their press instructions say.  I'll try that and see how it works.

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I have seen some dies that you have to crank down a 1/2 or 1 turn more. Sometimes you have to do that with 30-06 type brass. If its off just a few 1000th it won't seat all the way into the cylinder. That should work.

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All of my sizing dies are adjusted so that the shell holder contacts the bottom of the die and creates the slightest amount of cam over pressure while doing it and I have never had a problem.  RCBS die instructions tell you to adjust this way.

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Found part of the problem, the shell plate bolt wasn't tight enough allowing the plate to flex down when the brass was in the die causing a gap to open.  I tightened that and screwed the die all the way down to the plate with just a little pressure on it and I think I've got it now. 

Also found another trouble spot I didn't even think about.  I was having problems with the resized die damaging some case mouths.  Sometimes the brass was just ever so slightly out of line and if you didn't watch, the die would split or dent the case mouth.  Turns out that the bench was flexing a bit and allowing the press to jar and vibrate the case out of position just a small amount, causing bad alignment.  I installed two 4x4 posts directly under the press to stiffen up the bench. I'll see next time I load.  Gotta go shoot some now so I can have something to load.laugh

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Had the same problem with two boxes I got from Reed ammo.  Found out the overall lenght was too long by 1/16". Had to force them in to close the cylinder, and hammer them out after they were fired. Only fired 6 rounds.  Used the rest through my Thomson Center.

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