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Jesaja11
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HI,

I have a problem with one maybe two cylinders on my VH715

After Shooting the case it sits tightly in the cylinder.

Tried different cases but always the same.

All cylinders are smooth and not rough

Should i polish it?

Which are the right tools?

 

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Robert

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How tight are cases in those two chambers after shooting?  Are you still able to extract them with the extractor?  If you do decide to polish the cylinders, just make sure you do it right.  Seeing that you are in Austria it may be impossible for you to find another cylinder if you screw it up.  If I were to do it, I'd get a cylinder cylinder hone like this one from Brownell's, and do it in a drill press to make sure that it is square and straight.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=649/Product/HANDGUN-POLISHING-SYSTEM

 

It might be cheaper to take the cylinder to a gunsmith and have him polish it, I'd just make sure you ask him how he is going to polish it first. 

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First I would be sure you do not have a carbon ring from shooting 38s. This can have the same effect.  A 40 cal bore brush dipped in solvent then turnned slowly in a drill should do the trick. If a carbon buildup is not the problem at least your cylinders will be spotless. Good luck.

 

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If you reload, occasionally you will get lube grease on your cases. If you don't clean the brass up good they will stick too. If they stick bad and you bang on your ejector you can bend it. Good luck!

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If you are using handloads, also make sure of the recipe in your loads.  I had sued what should have been a mild load with Blue Dot in a .357 magnum,   years ago according to a reference loading book at the time.  Turned out we literally jammed every case in the cylinder.  We only fired those couple to realize something was wrong.  Read later that Blue Dot's load was incorrect in that publication...  Just a thought on high pressure. 

 

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So it's best to have 2-3 reloading manuals, and to try and cross reference loads as a reality check?

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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harly said:

How tight are cases in those two chambers after shooting?  Are you still able to extract them with the extractor?  If you do decide to polish the cylinders, just make sure you do it right.  Seeing that you are in Austria it may be impossible for you to find another cylinder if you screw it up.  If I were to do it, I'd get a cylinder cylinder hone like this one from Brownell's, and do it in a drill press to make sure that it is square and straight.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=649/Product/HANDGUN-POLISHING-SYSTEM

 

It might be cheaper to take the cylinder to a gunsmith and have him polish it, I'd just make sure you ask him how he is going to polish it first. 

THX harly for your answer, no i can't extract the case (1pc.) with the extractor.
The other cases goes well.
I don't trust the gunsmithes here in Austria, i do it for myself,...and it is better!
Thanks for this link, it's an good idea!
Robert

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lbruce said:

First I would be sure you do not have a carbon ring from shooting 38s. This can have the same effect.  A 40 cal bore brush dipped in solvent then turnned slowly in a drill should do the trick. If a carbon buildup is not the problem at least your cylinders will be spotless. Good luck.

 

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Gary J said:

If you reload, occasionally you will get lube grease on your cases. If you don't clean the brass up good they will stick too. If they stick bad and you bang on your ejector you can bend it. Good luck!

OK - I don't know that, I'm load by myself and usually it's not lube on the cases

if i finished, every each case will be cleaned - but it's an option!

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Supermagfan said:

If you are using handloads, also make sure of the recipe in your loads.  I had sued what should have been a mild load with Blue Dot in a .357 magnum,   years ago according to a reference loading book at the time.  Turned out we literally jammed every case in the cylinder.  We only fired those couple to realize something was wrong.  Read later that Blue Dot's load was incorrect in that publication...  Just a thought on high pressure. 

 

SMF 

Yes, i take "LOVEX" powder (the old Accurate) and the loading data are higher than the Accurate datas,...surely i will try a lower data.

THX for help!

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Steve CT said:

So it's best to have 2-3 reloading manuals, and to try and cross reference loads as a reality check?

Yes, i check it out!

THX

Robert

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harly said:

How tight are cases in those two chambers after shooting?  Are you still able to extract them with the extractor?  If you do decide to polish the cylinders, just make sure you do it right.  Seeing that you are in Austria it may be impossible for you to find another cylinder if you screw it up.  If I were to do it, I'd get a cylinder cylinder hone like this one from Brownell's, and do it in a drill press to make sure that it is square and straight.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=649/Product/HANDGUN-POLISHING-SYSTEM

 

It might be cheaper to take the cylinder to a gunsmith and have him polish it, I'd just make sure you ask him how he is going to polish it first. 

Cool:

I have the same problem with my 1979 15-2. ticks me off although I can get them out with a slight whack on the rod. The same loads drop right out of my S&W snubbie.

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Yesterday i shot 30rounds with less loading.

...no more problem with the cases!

The loading data of Lovex powder (old Accurate) is high i found out and not all powder are burnt after this shots. The loading data is on minimum and i will try

to take less powder again.

But maybe the little bit oiling on my cylinders before the shots i did, was another tool to get the cases out?

THX

Robert

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