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March 2, 2008
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Anyone have experience with this? I saw a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog today that seems functionally good, but the finish is really rough. If I thought I could do a decent job with the Durabake, I could maybe try a real lowball offer on the Bulldog. I've always thought these were pretty cool guns, sure does throw a sizeable hunk of lead from a small package.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
January 8, 2011
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Don't know about Durabake but I owned a CA Pug .357 mag. It's the only gun I ever owned that I sold because it was no fun to shoot. Recoil was a handfull.
Hossman 
January 4, 2011
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Check out these folks. I have several guns done by them in Duracoat. You most like do not need Durabake, but if you inquire these guys can tell you what you need to know. They do a good job; they parkerize everything prior to doing the Duracoat.
http://www.oakridgecustomfinishing.com/
If you want to see pictures, I will post a few.
December 27, 2010
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Had a couple guns dura-cote they looked like some one spary painted them good thing they where cheap cz 52.I had 3 guns cera coated ceramic coating very nice stuff wares good comes in about 30 colors self lubracating
January 4, 2011
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I would caution you that anything that is cheap, is cheap. I have a number of guns ceracoated as well. About the same!
Actually, I have 31 guns duracoated and 17 with ceracoat. About the same.
January 4, 2011
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Pick out the gun with the ceracoat finish - the rifles in the first picture are obviously duracoat given the extremely limited number of colors available in ceracoat.
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Dans Club
March 27, 2009
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Way over my head on this head I am still in the old bluing mode! Good looking toys you got there Florida!
December 27, 2010
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Dura cote is about 8mil thick cera coat is 3mil.You can't tell by pictures but I bet you in person I can pick the diffrence.Having done a lot of powder coating myself ceramic coating is much better.can dura cote stand 1500 degrees direct flame?
December 27, 2010
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I didn't say cera cote was cheap I said cz's were cheap!
January 4, 2011
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Who cares if ceracoat can stand up to 1500 degrees. Call the fire department; your safe will burn up; your barrel will melt.
Powder coating is not duracoating. How may guns to you have of each? I have many of both. Pick what you like, but don't pass your opinion off as fact because you got a poor job on something. Preparation and skill are factors.
If you want plain, mundane earth tone colors that you are gone to take you blow torch to, buy all means pick ceracoat. If you want a good, durable, proven coating with a multitude of color choices, pick duracoat. If you're cheap, run down to Home Depot and get some spray paint.
And with almost 50 guns "painted", all with proper preparation and applied by an experienced and skilled applicator, it is nearly impossible to tell which is which.
November 14, 2009
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FlaDWCollector,
Who did your camo guns? I'm interested in looking over their website if they have one.
Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich
January 4, 2011
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mox-ct said:
FlaDWCollector,
Who did your camo guns? I'm interested in looking over their website if they have one.
This is the guy that did the forest camo (third picture) for me I don't know if he has a website, but you can reach him at this email address: mattumann60@aol.com
Contact him directly if you have any questions.
December 27, 2010
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Go on inter net and do a little homework and you will find out cera cote epoxy ceramic base is rated a lot higher then dura cote spay paint although cera cote cost twice as much
January 4, 2011
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waltfraz said:
Go on inter net and do a little homework and you will find out cera cote epoxy ceramic base is rated a lot higher then dura cote spay paint although cera cote cost twice as much
Rated by whom? The vendors that sell it. You should do a little homework. Duracoat is not a spray paint, nor is is powdercoat. It must really suck since it dominates the market for durable gun coatings. It is also resistent to rust, is water and oil repelant and wipes cleans without solvent after use. Don't confuse yourself with the self-lubricating; a ceramic-costed gun and bolt are not the same. I have several ceramic bolts, chrome bolts and TiN bolts. Check them out.
November 14, 2009
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Happyness is a Hot DW and a pile of used brass!!! Rich
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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Gentlemen- Disagreement is OK, but let's please have a little less "chest bumping", and more of "this is what I think, and here's why".
It's OK to state your opinion, and it's OK to RESPECTFULLY disagree with someone else's opinion, maybe just a little less agressively?
We all want to play in the same sandbox!
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
January 4, 2011
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My best response to this is:
When you have the money, time, guns and inclination, get a gun done in each coating. Throw each in the back of your truck several times on your way to the range or favorite hunting spot; strap them to your ATV and blast through the mud and brush and drag them through the woods for a couple of years. You will find each will get dinged, scratched, chipped and dirty beyond cleaning with a dry rag. This is not an opinion; this is based on personal experience, not something I read on the Internet.
I am sure each has its advantages and/or disadvantages based on personal use, taste and desire be it cost, choice of color combination or other need. I've put enough consective rounds through a couple of my duracoated rapid fire rifles to get the barrel hot enough to severly blister your fingertips (I never professed to being overly bright, I found that out the hard way) and the coating didn't run, chip, crack or wrinkle. The same can be said about my cerakoted FA (not burned fingers though).
So, unless you have personal experience with both, an opinion is just that: a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty (or lack of personal experience of knowledge based on that experience). Try them out; you will be happy with either.
Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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FloridaDWCollector said:
I've put enough consective rounds through a couple of my duracoated rapid fire rifles to get the barrel hot enough to severly blister your fingertips
I will say that having never been a rifle shooter, I was stunned at how hot the barrel on my AR got after about 100 rounds. It's a heavy stainless barrel, so once it got hot, it stayed pretty hot for quite a while
Thanks to everyone for their advice on this subject, I'm passing on the "beater Pug", mainly because I have other projects pending and incomplete. I should not try anything new right now.
I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.
George Carlin
DWF Supporters
July 11, 2009
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FloridaDWCollector, have you ever used Sandstrom #859?
I had it on some of my M2HB .50cal machine guns, and it was spectacular when it came to corrosion resistance and durability. It easily withstood a lot of saltwater submersion and frequent sandstorms. It was slick, so stuff just wiped off. I saw barrels coated with it glow red before, and while it would chip off in a few places every so often, it seemed to stay in good condition under pretty nasty circumstances.
Application wasn't the easiest in the world, and certainly wouldn't be cost effective unless you were doing many weapons. Colors are limited as well.
Probably not an everyday coating people come across, but in my experience it worked very well.
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