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Firing Pin Spring install and roll pins removal on 715?
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snake-eye
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April 16, 2012 - 3:32 pm
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Here's a couple of easy questions:

1. Which way does the firing pin spring go onto the firing pin?

The spring is conical shaped and the diagrams I've seen appear to show that the small end of the cone goes toward the cylinder, but the drawing is not that great.

Unfortunately when I was removing the pin, it fell out while I was driving the retaining roll pin out and the pin and spring separated so I could not tell how it went together.

2. Should the roll pins always be removed in one direction (left to right) and installed in the other direction (right to left) - or does it matter?

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My 714 (service or fixed sight model.The 715 should be the same) has a tapered firing pin.

The stock firing pin spring that I removed had the small end facing towards the matching small striking end of the firing pin. (towards the front of the barrel)

The replacement EWK firing pin spring that I installed was also slightly tapered.

I would think that would be the only way you would be able install it,  but I did not try to put it together backwards.

Pretty much look at the taper of the pin and the spring and mate the two up together facing the same direction.

 

As to removing the roll pin, I have noticed some guns have a specific direction to drive a roll pin out in. I do not know for sure about the Dan Wesson, but I can relate my experience in having done it recently.

I had just removed and cleaned and replaced the firing pin spring a few days ago on my 714, and I remember putting the roll pin back in the gun starting from the left side and gently tapping it to the right side using a 1/16th punch.

My roll punch was just a tiny bit too short, and I ended up moving the roll pin out the last little bit using a smaller than 1/16 drill bit (chuck end) and a small amount of finger pressure.

When removing the roll pin, I first softly tapped it a bit from both sides to see which way it wanted to move.

In my case it probably came out driving it right to left, since I put it back together the opposite way. I also wondered about this before I did it, but I didn't see it mentioned anyplace, so I just did it cautiously not knowing if it only went in one direction or not.

Perhaps someone else will sound off here and let us know for sure.

 

Hope the information that I could provide helps some.

 

- Bullwolf

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April 16, 2012 - 9:21 pm
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Thanks Bullwolf. Mine actually went back together easily with the small end facing to the rear of the gun, but I thought I'd better ask since there's always a right way and it will make a difference. Now I know what I'll be doing tomorrow.

The roll pin retaining my firing pin came out from left to right without a problem, but I was reading about another make of firearm and that information said always remove from left to right & install from right to left.

One of the great things about this forum is that it has made it possible for me to even consider doing things to my guns that I would have been afraid of without it.

tj

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I can comment a little bit more on the roll pin.  The roll pin itself tapered at both ends and both ends are identical.  The pin can be inserted with either end first.  However, the condition of the hole may make it easier to drive the pin one particular way.  I usually look for the side with a cleanest hole with no marring around the edges and drive the pin from that side.  I also use a special roll pin punch which has a dimple at the end and is designed to seat at the end of the roll pin and prevent from collapsing the roll pin.  A straight drift pin punch is not used for driving roll pins!  Here you go.....

 

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Thanks Harly. I recently purchased a set of roll pin punches especially for use on my guns, so I'm set on that score.

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