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December 31, 2010
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Is it my imagination? I don't think so because I'm having to reduce some loads to get into the sweet spot. In the DW they also seem a little snappier too.
The charges that worked well in my Taurus 66 seem noticably hotter in the DW.
I think that's pretty interesting. Is that common? Anyone else notice it between their 357's?
Thought I'd check and see if I'm losing my mind or what!
Thanks for your feeback.
P.S I use a lot of fast powder. 700X with 145 SWC and 168 Keith that I cast. Just to give you an idea type of bullets I'm talking about the 145 had a light charge of 2.8 and the 168 shoots great in the Taurus with 5.1 grains. It's starting to look like 4.7 is right for the DW. Although there's more shooting to do before calling it done.
Dan Wesson 15-2
Taurus 66SS6
Taurus M85BUL
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September 26, 2010
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Where did you get you load data? I do not use IMR 700X so I looked up the data looks hot to me.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Chuck
May 17, 2010
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I would wonder if the varible gap in the DW verusus a fixed gap in the Taurus would account for some of it. On a fixed barrel I would assume that the gap has to be wide enough to last the life of the gun. Just a thought.. other than that.. I don't know.. different throats?
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Can't say for sure, but I imagine there are to many variables to compare. Different barrel lengths, weight, grip angle, cylinder gap, barrel diameter, perceived recoil and barrel flip. None of these alone will be a big deal but cumulatively could add up. It's anyone's guess. Just my thoughts.
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December 31, 2010
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DrSparky said:
Where did you get you load data? I do not use IMR 700X so I looked up the data looks hot to me.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Chuck
It's a little over the Hodgdon LWC hardcast load, which is not pushing the 357 mag pressure limits, but under the Jacketed load. It's been the most accurate load in the Taurus. Best of .6 inch. Course I cheat, it's off a rest and with a Red Dot. Been shooting it for some time.
The difference I'm talking about is even evident withe th 2.7 charge with the 145. It's not over pressure or anything, that's not what I'm talking about.
The bet accuracy seems to be downloaded a bit, although I'm still working through it. At least with the 168. I'm not sure either gun likes the 145 to much.
Dan Wesson 15-2
Taurus 66SS6
Taurus M85BUL
Ruger 22/45
http://357shooter.blogspot.com/
December 31, 2010
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Pinetor said:
I would wonder if the varible gap in the DW verusus a fixed gap in the Taurus would account for some of it. On a fixed barrel I would assume that the gap has to be wide enough to last the life of the gun. Just a thought.. other than that.. I don't know.. different throats?
That makes sense. The throat size on the DW is actually bigger, the barrels are the same. Both diameter and length.
Forcing cone and throats seem very different. The bullets can be loaded quite a bit longer in the DW.
Sounds like nobody else noticed the same thing. After a few weeks the DW will be normal and I'll be wondering about the Taurus! 
Dan Wesson 15-2
Taurus 66SS6
Taurus M85BUL
Ruger 22/45
http://357shooter.blogspot.com/
December 31, 2010
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lbruce said:
Can't say for sure, but I imagine there are to many variables to compare. Different barrel lengths, weight, grip angle, cylinder gap, barrel diameter, perceived recoil and barrel flip. None of these alone will be a big deal but cumulatively could add up. It's anyone's guess. Just my thoughts.
LB
The biggest differences seem to be the dimensions inside the cylinger, and the forcing cone.
Each cylinder/chamber is quite a bit tighter, but longer.
Given that the load is "stout" for a non-magnum powder (the 168) that's probably a factor too. Even the 2.7 load is snappier.
Gotta get used to it.
Going to test more tomorrow, plan to load some 200 SWC to see how they do in the DW.
Thanks for the replies.
Dan Wesson 15-2
Taurus 66SS6
Taurus M85BUL
Ruger 22/45
http://357shooter.blogspot.com/
September 26, 2010
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If you are going up to a 200 grain SWC you may want to try a 1:12 twist barrel.
Chuck
December 31, 2010
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DrSparky said:
If you are going up to a 200 grain SWC you may want to try a 1:12 twist barrel.
Chuck
I plan to try one when they become available. I'm checking the site every few days.
The 200 shoots great in the Taurus. It has a 16.5 twist, however it's very accurate.
I guess that's the reason I like 700X so much. It's a fast, accurate powder that works well with heavy bullets. So it's inexpensive too.
The 200-SWC Taurs load is 3.4 of 700x. Don't know what the DW likes with this bullet yet.
I still have the Taurus, at the range I can shoot one gun. Put it down and shoot the other. Kinda brings out the differences. Although side by side they look alot alike.
Dan Wesson 15-2
Taurus 66SS6
Taurus M85BUL
Ruger 22/45
http://357shooter.blogspot.com/
December 31, 2010
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OK, if anyone is still reading this. Figured it out.
When loading for the DW I stretched the OAL a bit, as the would handle the length.
I started shooting the bullets at the slightly shorter (still of magnum max length though) and guess what. They shoot great, and accurate as all getout.
The 168 Keith with 700X shoots great too.
It's weird that the longer load seemed hotter and snappier. But it's working good now.
Got a Simmons scope on the way from Midway… can't wait. Still want the EWK barrel.
Dan Wesson 15-2
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February 11, 2010
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I'm not a reloader but I would have guessed that the load would have
felt "hotter snapper" with the shorter OAL...learn something everyday.
Thanks for the update !
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November 17, 2008
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Not sure about this but longer OAL means more air space in case, which means powder burns slower, which means more pressure, I think. 
LB
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