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I finally started on polishing my 715. I will be doing the SHOOT Tune Up along with the polishing, and broke the 715 all the way down, and actually went a little further in a couple of instances-broke down cylinder latch, removed firing pin, disassembled rear sight, etc.

So, without looking up a parts diagram, does anyone want to guess how many parts there are if you completely user disassemble a 715? By user disassemble I mean taking apart everything that can be reasonably done with hand tools (I added one tool to his list). I did not remove any blind roll pins, press fit pins, peened in fittings, etc. Anything that can be removed with tools found in the workshop of a moderately well equipped "tinkerer" qualifies. The only tool I had to acquire was the punch for the roll pins.

Since I will be working on this for a while, I stashed all the parts in a compartmented box:

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Here's what surprised me:

1) Not nearly as many parts as I thought there would be

2) This was VERY easy to do, took maybe 30 minutes

3) In a fairly clean gun, there is an amazing amount to crud in some of the places that never see the light of day. Anyone want to guess what the cruddiest, goopiest, nastiest place on the 715 was?

At any rate, have some fun, but no prizes on this one

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February 3, 2010 - 11:58 am
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So Steve:

Nickle wasn't satisfying enough?  You gotta polish a stainless Gun?lol2

-Mike

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February 3, 2010 - 12:16 pm
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I've been inside enough of them to know the answer, so I'll bow out of this one 😉

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Ill throw a wag at it, the count is 40 pieces and the most gunk is in the extractor shaft area.

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I'll guess 36 pieces & also go with the extractor shaft area, mine are always pretty nasty there.

Looks like it's a nice foundation for a polish job.Cool

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Mike- Yes! I bought this one for this exact reason, and Mothers Mag Polish isn't enough. This is now a "frame off" restoration, and power tools are no longer an option, they're a requirement.

SHOOT- Throw your answer in, because once I thought I had an answer, it changed 3 times. Hint: It's not just about what's inside, it's about the whole 715 (is that a Zen thing?)

LB/CF- Thank you for playing, feel free to try again Laugh

Every part is in my box, not every one is readily visible. Springs, pins, screws, they're all parts. If a doofus like me can remove/reinstall it with hand tools, it's a part.

Second Hint: So far, everyone is low, and no one has found "Gunk City" yet

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Steve CT said:

Second Hint: So far, everyone is low, and no one has found "Gunk City" yet


Ok, the firing pin was going to be my next guess. I know the one on my old AMT Automag used to get plenty grungy.

And how about 39 parts?Laugh

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February 3, 2010 - 2:53 pm
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OK round 2. How bout 42 pieces and the cylinder latch area.

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OK….If I remember right my gun was 43 pieces (including grip, screw, and washer)… dirtiest place is always below cylinder stop where the little spring/plunger is.

****edit 44 pieces–forgot one!-- How slow do you have to be to mentally forget to remove barrel nut 🙂

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I can allow for a +/- of one part-my 715 does not have a grip screw washer.

SHOOT has identified the second cruddiest part of my 715-the spring area under the cylinder latch was packed with fuzzy greasy lint. STOP THE PRESSES! In order to check this area, you need to remove the smallest part on a DW Small Frame Revolver.

Another hint- the Frame is a part

Everyone is still low

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February 3, 2010 - 3:54 pm
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I think your 715 has extra parts 😉  I could add one more part to the inventory, but on some of my 15's it doesn't appear to be removeable--others it is.

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And so does mine...Screwy  Amazing what you forget.  +3 = 47 🙂

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quick guess 49 parts. "gunk city" could it be trigger pawl (strut) spring pocket?

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I guess 48 parts and the cylinder being the dirtiest.  Screwy

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I'll put an end to the drama tonite when I get home from work, no one has hit my number yet. My number came from counting everything as it was spread out in front of me, and I recounted about 6 times as I kept remembering other parts (like the set screw that holds the front sight-it's a part)

The filtiest, cruddiest, most munged up place on my 715 was under the rear sight. The springs were caked with old, dirty lubricant that had dried into chunks. The little recesses that the springs pocket into on the underside of the sight were were packed with what looked like old, dried up axle grease.

BTW-I was interested to see that the rear sight assembly was easily the most complex assembly, requiring eight pieces, including the springs, roll pin, etc. A lot of work for such an everyday little thing

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I didn't dissassemble my rear sight 🙁  I will agree that on my Sentinel it was FILTHY under the rear sight and slightly rusty.

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Hmmm...I haven't removed any of my rear sights yet either. I bet the one on my 15-2 is probably pretty grungy (although I can't see any from the outside), the rest of the gun sure was when I first got it. I may have to check it out this weekend.Laugh

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On guns used for silhouette, the shooters blackened the sights to get a better contrast on the steel.Birchwood Casey made a Sight Black spray (which was actually more grey than black) that many shooters used. Most used a carbide lamp to "smoke" the sights for each match. This caked on soot could be the source of your gunk under the rear sight.

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How about 52 pcs if you left the front site pin and the shroud pin in place , and did not remove the ejector rod bushing. And below the cylinder stop should be the funkiest.

Steve good luck on the polishing and reassembly..

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