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Waldo Pepper
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Had a friend give me most of his 357 ammo while back, both empties and loaded ammo. Seems I decided to shoot some of it instead of pulling bullets and reloading them. So to the range one day I went with the 42 rounds of some he gave me that I thought I would try and a different friend.

Well we had been shooting some from the 25 yard range and were sitting at the benches, friend was plinking away with his SA Ruger and I had my 15-2 with V4 & VH8 IHMSA along. Anyway I had not used the VH8 yet, but decided before I did I wanted to plink the guys reloads. He's a dang engineer so I figured he knew what he was doing, wrong answer.

 

I fired 1st round and my friend said "wow!!!" and further commented on it sounding loud, I fired once more and same thing it was way to loud. So I removed the rounds and went back to shooting my on loads. I called the guy I got them from the next day and asked what they were loaded with for powder. He said 800X and 158 grain JHP but couldn't remember amount of powder at the moment and after talking with him a few minutes seems his Taurus had blown a cylinder while he was shooting this load and he forgot to mention it. Said right off he didn't think it was a pownder amount problem as he had shot the load in the Taurus once before with no probems.

So I finished pulling the 40 other I still had just now and he was shooting about 2.5 to 3 grains over the max load for bullet weight. No freaking wonder the POS Taurus blew out a cylinder. And good thing the DW built lots stroinger then a Taurus.

Never shoot someone elses reloads, never know for sure they knew what they were doing.  

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Good advice and I'm glad there was no damage to your Dan!

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He forgot to mention he blew up his gun with them..... 

 

wait... he's and engineer and bought a taurus???? slap

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A few years back I sold a 15-2 Pistol Pac to my fishing buddy.  While in the process of finalizing the sell.  Don's son-in-law Ted came over.  Now Ted is a champion bull eye shooter.  Ted wanted to load up some 357mag ammo using bulleye  power.  His reasoning was in worked in his 45 so why would it not work in the Dan.  I made Don promise me he would never shoot a round that Ted had touched.  My rule  (I will not load ammo for others and I will not shoot any ammo that is not factory or that I did not load).

After reading Waldo Pepper's post I like my rule even better.  Thank God you and your Dan are OK.  frown R S

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It was good thing I keep a pistol cleaning kit in the range bag, had to tapp them out. Didn't want to chance bending ejector rod.  

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I've had others guys loads that were hot.... and I've had some that were weak and didn't clear the end of the barrel laugh...

I buy yard sale ammo when I see it--but I only shoot it out of my DW's.  Simply because I know they will handle hot loads, and if one lodges in the barrel... I just unscrew it and put it on the bench for a rainy day...

But, normal people should not shoot other peoples handloads wink...

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"seems his Taurus had blown a cylinder while he was shooting this load and he forgot to mention it. Said right off he didn't think it was a pownder amount problem as he had shot the load in the Taurus once before with no probems."

 

He's a Supergenius.

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I still can't believe I shot his ammo, been reloading since I was about 12, off and on, and I'll be 67 this summer and I've never shot any ones reloads in my guns. Won't do that again.

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HPMike800 said:

"seems his Taurus had blown a cylinder while he was shooting this load and he forgot to mention it. Said right off he didn't think it was a pownder amount problem as he had shot the load in the Taurus once before with no probems."

 

He's a Supergenius.

Yeah, sounds like it!laughing rofl

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I agree thats the best advice not to shoot anyone else's ammo. I  have but only if its in a plastic box and is labeled with the powder, bullet type and how many grains of powder were used.  Then I use a bullet puller and re-check some random rounds for bullet wt. and then measure the powder loads in grains.  Then when I shoot a round and it doesn't sound right. I wont shoot it anymore.

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I have shot a few reloads in the persons gun doing the reloading a couple times, one a contender, a Colt custom shop 45 SA, and a Colt Gold Cup.

But I have always politely passed on shooting anyones reloads in my guns, I guess I'm just getting old and too mello.....or as a neighbor friend says feeling the money pinch.

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I'm with you Waldo...that is a NEVER, no how, no way for me. I have sold a few of my guns, but I won't sell any of my loaded ammo with it. I will pull all the bullets and dump the powder (makes great fertilizer for the wife's flower beds). I will then sell the empty brass and bullets as components.

 

I might also buy someone else's reloads, but ONLY to use the brass or bullets. All of it gets broken down into brass and bullets...I won't use the powder, even if the seller knows exactly what it is. Most likely, it is a different lot number than what I have, and I don't trust them either on the brand.

There are people who shoot others loads all the time...they are playing with a hand grenade with no pin.

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I guess I've been very lucky, but I won't take the risk again.  When I bought my 7445 from some guy in California, I got 1000 rounds of new Starline brass, 100 rounds with 300 gr. JHP's over an amount that I don't remember (29grs.??) of W626 and 100 rounds with 220 gr. JHP's over (31grs.??) of W626.  Again, I don't remember how much.

I shot them all and they were fine, reasonable loads.  Just darn lucky, I guess.

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Back in the day we used to say better lucky then good. 

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Back in the day (mid 1980's) my best gun Bud and I had

to remove the reloading equipment from his good friend after the 45ACPs

he "reloaded" fell apart upon handling. No resize. No crimp. He admitted

it wasn't his game and gave in after a little show and tell. I still have the dies.

Friends don't let incompetent friends reload 🙂

 

On an unrelated note, Midway now is delivering 445 brass. I got a few hundred.

This is my first commercial brass since the ill fated 445 Gates brass. The later

actually works OK after work hardening but is still thinner than the Starline. I

like the Starline design. If you look closely they taper the thickness of the case

up to where the bottom of the longest bullet might reside. I have taken to using

their brass for 44 special and magnum as well.

Until I get the 445 cylinder throats bored out to .430 I might shoot some lead.

 

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