Avatar
Please consider registering
Guest
Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Register Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Large frame, Strut pivot pin grinding
Avatar
Macko
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 6
Member Since:
October 5, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
December 20, 2018 - 3:22 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Hello!

I tried searching for this but came up empty. I have a 44M model in relatively good condition. My only issue is the DA trigger (like everyone else :D). 

However after a thorough cleaning I found the culprit. So I thought I'd ask the great tinkerers of this forum how you would solve it. 

Basically the strut pivot pin was (still is) grinding against the side of the frame. 

My solution albeit temporary would be to tape over that side of the strut with tape. 

I'll try to upload a picture of the carnage. 

Edit: holy bad word I managed to embed an image

https://i.imgur.com/8G8SbJR.jpg

Avatar
rwsem
SOWELA (Southwest Louisiana)

Supporter
Members


Moderators


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 5347
Member Since:
February 22, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
December 21, 2018 - 5:14 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Is it loose in the hole?  Maybe a PO used/ fabricated a pin that that is not the correct diameter.  I'd look at replacing with a pin that stays put.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

Avatar
Macko
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 6
Member Since:
October 5, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
December 21, 2018 - 9:25 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

It is indeed loose, it fell out on its own. Assumed it was an original pin. 

Probably best to change it. Anyone know the diameter of the original pin? I'll probably have to fit a new pin but a diameter to go on would be much appreciated. 

Avatar
rwsem
SOWELA (Southwest Louisiana)

Supporter
Members


Moderators


Dans Club
Forum Posts: 5347
Member Since:
February 22, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
December 22, 2018 - 5:21 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

And it may be original; the pin mics at .0775"

It occurred to me when I was checking that there may not be enough forward pressure on the strut, which is causing the pin to move. 

Trying lengthening the spring a bit to see if that helps- and/or buy a new one.

You could use a roll pin instead of a solid pin.

You could put a bit of grease on the pin to help it stay put.

I think probably some movement is normal as they aren't in there real tight anyway- that little bit of wear isn't hurting anything and I don't think it would affect the DA pull, really.  It's just creating a nook for rust to hide in.

Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

Avatar
superdan
Eau Claire, WI
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 354
Member Since:
October 26, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
January 21, 2019 - 12:22 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Stake it in place. Use a center punch to roll just a little material over the hole on both sides of the hammer to hold it in. Don't do it heavily you want to be able to remove it again later but a light stake will hold it in mechanically.

Avatar
Macko
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 6
Member Since:
October 5, 2018
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
July 22, 2019 - 8:54 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

So it took me long enough to get around to fixing it. I hate seeing posts about issues without a resolution. Or even worse a last post with "nevermind i fixed it" without an explanation of the fix. 

The pictures don't do justice to the depth of the damage. It unfortunately caused quite a bit of grinding so using it in double action was horrible. What i eventually did was fill in the damage with plastic metal and stoned the surface smooth. I also used a bit of grease to keep the pin in place. So far it seems to be working. Had it out and it ran fine, in double action it is of course heavy. But not at all gritty anymore. 

I doubt anyone else will have the same problem. But who knows, someone might stumble across this forum thread in a couple of years. Thank you all for your suggestions 🙂

Forum Timezone: America/New_York
Most Users Ever Online: 658
Currently Online: Stinger
Guest(s) 82
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
Steve: 10330
SHOOTIST357: 4788
Dave_Ks: 4300
Ole Dog: 4066
Stinger: 3447
Supermagfan: 3250
zoommb: 3161
IHMSA80x80: 3014
Blacktop: 3004
brucertx: 2311
Newest Members:
Edwinfam
mrpski
Myramillan
Gunner 70
Faunsewillawn
LouieCeS
Shawnrug
AnnelKix
MrBigfugh
MichaelHag
Forum Stats:
Groups: 11
Forums: 42
Topics: 16837
Posts: 148318

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 87
Members: 11654
Moderators: 4
Admins: 1
Administrators: Jody
Moderators: lbruce, Charger Fan, rwsem, SCORPIO