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May 17, 2009
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Great read 6point8! This reloading stuff is fascinating.
Here's a line up of some of my reloads, not the 22's obviously:
Now don't get on me about the crimps……………
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January 24, 2009
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6point8 said:
Also, nobody mentioned...and i can't tell from pics....do those bullets have cannelures? i find crimping without 'em makes some wrinkly cases.
Nope, they were backordered on cannelured bullets, so I went with these instead...
They are 240gr Berry's Bullets. So far I like 'em, hopefully my barrels like 'em too.
Thanks for all the helpful info, 6point8. I also used the factory loaded bullet idea...I decided it's an easy way to help double check my dimensions, before I run through 100 or so & have to redo them because of some mistake.
Jaggman, that's a nice looking lineup! We could play "guess the bullet" with that pic.
Doom, I may be crazy enough to post pics of my wrinkled reloads...but there's no way I'm insane enough to post a video of me shooting these things!
January 17, 2010
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should use a taper crimp not a roll crimp on non cannelured bullets.
I believe, or learned that a crimp was to prevent the other bullets in the cylinder from pulling out during recoil. and also to help build a slight initial pressure to get all the powder burning.
be careful comparing a diferent bullet combo even in same caliber. sometimes the seating depth is for consideration of the ogive. but i guess not soo much in revolvers. when i load one of my favorites i put up one of them for future reference. i use veneer calipers alot. also seating depth messes with case volume and starting pressures as a result.
good work though on yer rounds.....glad ya got a deal on bullets. reloading is all about value. low cost and higher quality.
did ya load all 41 to same powder charge? starting out with new gun i like to load in ten round increments and bump the charge up in each ten. about a quarter to a half grain. and whilst shooting i swab between batches and then check accuracy and cases for pressure signs.
as per advice here on the forum i found my supermag to perform better with a heavier bullet and hotter charge (near max) 240's actually. seems yer starting in a good spot.
get some range time......i started doing accuracy evals before i fired my super enough to get used to it. I'm a sniper...so i work the turnbolt boomsticks alot. so i was confused by some results.....but the guys here got me straightened out.
i took a video of one of my first outings with super. i was amazed at how docile the 44mag was in the super and how boomin' the super was. the blast actually knocked things over on my bench where the 44 mag didn't. but i haven't yet figured out how to post vids here.
jaggman.....here goes my guess of yer lineup from left to right.
17sumptin/ 17 sumptin/ 22 mag/ 454 casull/ 445/ 45lc/ .40 auto/ 22lr/ 9mm/ 223/ 44mag/ 50 sumptin/ 44 special/ 357 max.
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April 25, 2008
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I always crimp in a separate step. The Redding Profile Crimp Die is a key to more consistent crimps in revolver cases, and better accuracy. When I started loading for my first revolver, the DW 740, I couldn't get any consistent groups. The Redding die turned it into a stellar performer, and I've been sold on them ever since. I have one for every cartridge, and I do them on either the single-stage or progressive press.
All my primer pockets are cut with a Sinclair primer pocket uniformer, and they are cleaned after each firing with the same tool. Primers are seated perfectly with the Sinclair Priming tool.
Do I count number of reloads on my brass? Nope, brass is inspected each time, and individual cases thrown out when the neck splits.
Thanks for sharing your experiences CF, it helps all the others to see they are having the same issues. Takes a brave man to admit his screw-ups. You're learning, as we all did...a little at a time.
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May 17, 2009
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6point8 said:
jaggman.....here goes my guess of yer lineup from left to right.
17sumptin/ 17 sumptin/ 22 mag/ 454 casull/ 445/ 45lc/ .40 auto/ 22lr/ 9mm/ 223/ 44mag/ 50 sumptin/ 44 special/ 357 max.
6point8 Ha. I wasn't intending to make the pic a contest so I'll have to check what I set up and then I'll post it after maybe some more guess. I like the "sumptin"
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January 17, 2010
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Maybe an add on to our reloading bench pics would be our "oops pile" pics?. I did a neat one recently that perfectly folded the neck all the way down to the bottom of the bullet but only on one side.
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January 17, 2010
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one side of 357
other side. felt a little tough on the press, just thought it was crud.
case from starline that bent my primer pin....no flash hole, and a neat bump on the inside where it should be.
A wrinkly case from those darn 430's.....if fit in cylinder so i shot it hoping to straighten it out, guess not.
reloading is fun, and sucks sometimes too.... I am always learning and even trying to remember what I thought I learned too. We get reminders of lessons here and there, ha ha.
"experience is the hardest teacher, the test comes before the lesson"
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January 24, 2009
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6point8, yep I loaded all these with the same powder charge. I was going to start at the lowest recommended grain amount, but my powder trickler only wanted to cooperate with a mid-charge, so I gave up & loaded them all that way. I should be able to shoot them this weekend, can't wait to see how they perform.
Those are some nice boo-boo pics too, I like the one with the peeled case.
Wouldn't be surprised if I get a few of those myself sometime.
IHMSA, thanks for the Redding tip. I'll keep an eye open for one & give it a shot. Until then, I'll just be happy if they go bang!
I think I'll get a primer pocket tool sometime too, never hurts to have clean pockets I bet.
I'll let you guys know if they all go bang this weekend.
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January 24, 2009
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I was finally able to get out & shoot my reloads yesterday! I ran the .44's through my Super Blackhawk…mainly just in case one of 'em blew up, I didn't want to ruin my DW. Besides, it's a tough gun & I like to shoot it.
Every one of them went bang & none of them seemed to have any pressure problems, it was great! I honestly expected problems, so I'm really happy that they performed well. I even got one of the wrinkled ones to chamber, and…BANG!
Now the .357's were a whole 'nuther matter.
I chose my newly acquired 15-1 Porkchop to be the guinea pig. 'Chops usually have rough chambers & I found out yesterday that if you're having pressure issues, a rough chamber isn't the best to use. I had pressure problems in about 45-50% of the rounds…had to use a stick for extraction on most of them. Two of them had a FTF on the first pass…had to take another whack at them to fire.
Here's a few of the worst offenders, with a good one on the left.
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Same group here, with the flash off…
3 or 4 pushed the primers just enough to require an assist when cocking the gun, otherwise they just pushed the firing pin punch back out almost flush. All of these have the cylinder grooves pushed into the brass…I can feel them with a fingernail.
I'm not sure if I crimped too tightly, or if my powder measure wasn't exactly even on these. I used Unique in these (H110 in the .44's) & being a fatter, more flaky powder, maybe it didn't measure as uniformly in my powder dispenser. I checked the powder dispense periodocally & it seemed to be within a grain or two of each other.
The dispenser I'm using is a used one & it does leak a bit of powder from the pivot shaft with each cycle…I have a catch bucket below it to collect the leak. So it's ability to accurately measure a load is in question. It's probably got a worn o-ring, or something…I should probably just buy a new one & save myself some grief.
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May 2, 2009
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You've got some primer "flow", but they are not flattened out... I'd say it was the crimps, but only you will truly figure it out.
Where is your PM leaking? I buy all my PM's used and have never had any kind of leak. I remember you buying it, but I don't remember what it was. Don't buy another one, I'll sell you one of mine if yours is truly bad.
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January 24, 2009
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It leaks out the side, between the body housing & the handle…pretty annoying. I thought I'd take it apart & see if it's got an o-ring I can replace. If you want to sell me one of yours though, I'll let ya. Even if I do fix this one, I can use it to just dispense H110…just 'cuz it seems to like that powder.
I'll try less crimp on the next batch & see if that goes better.
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