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February 22, 2009
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Ron you've learned well... x2 on everything OD wrote.
Reb- if you feel you need a shim, try here; DW is near the bottom.
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December 13, 2013
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Thanks for the diagram and link, but the site says thst those shims are for the large-frame DW, which I understand the 14 not to be. Am I missing something?
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February 22, 2009
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Nope- wasn't paying that close attention. Give them a call with the diameter and thickness you want, they probably can come up with a match.
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March 25, 2013
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Reb, you can probably order the bushing that is just in front of the ejector spring from Dan Wesson. That is probably worn and a new one would solve your problem. I think I have one in a batch of parts I bought. I was keeping it for my future bans but if all pans out , pm me. A new ball and spring comes with the small parts kit fromEWK. I think that should work.
December 13, 2013
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Ok, I have finally been able to take the 14 back out with the gap adjusted properly. It is still shooting WAY high at close range. I'm still using the 5.0 grains of Unique under 158gr LSWCHPS in .38 Spl. cases. At 15 yards from a solid rest, firing SA, the bullets hit in the top third of an 8 1/2x11 target when I put the front sight at the bottom edge of the paper.
Any suggestions on where to go from here?
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In lue of finding any problems with the revolver (loose shroud, bent barrel) the only fix I know of would be a taller front sight. Not a big project if you are mechanically inclined. A trial with some tape to build it up will tell you how much more sight you need. Other than that a trip home (DW) may be in order. Good luck.
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March 25, 2013
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Reb, going to throw an idea out. Erik at EWK uses thin spacers (.001+.002) to adjust the compensators he sells so the gases are directed up to push the muzzle down. They go on the barrel between the frame and the shroud. I think if you cut one in half or one third and put it on top of the barrel between frame and shroud it may solve your problem. I have a 14-2 that shoots low. There is a ledge on the base of the sight that works for me but I have some spacers and I think I'll try it. Gonna wait till next week when I get my new TRIFOCALS with a lens for shooting (and computer moniters). Eric would probably mail yoy a couple for small change.
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March 27, 2009
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Not sure why know one has asked but show us that Dan! Several things maybe handle by some well taken pictures.
Is the ball or spring even in it?
Keep us posted and post up front and side view of you DW!
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March 27, 2009
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Nothing looks wrong as far as the pictures go! Thanks for adding them! Pinned front sight, maybe just a 15 sight would fix it! The end shake needs to fixed then see where you are on the rest!
February 11, 2010
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Maybe it's the angle of the picture but your front sight looks short even for a model 14-2,
can you take a shot of the front sight ? Does it look like it might have been filed down ?
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December 4, 2011
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Agreed. that front sight looks very short, that could be your problem right there. EWK sells nice front sights in a variety of heights. I think they come in an assortment for not much money. You could experiment until you find one the brings the POA/POI more inline.
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December 13, 2013
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Blacktop said
Maybe it's the angle of the picture but your front sight looks short even for a model 14-2,can you take a shot of the front sight ? Does it look like it might have been filed down ?
-Blacktop
It's broken in two places, in front of and behind the tang where it is pinned to the shroud. It doesn't look like there would be that much of a height difference if it was intact, though I could be wrong.
If you click on the second image in my post above and enlarge it you will see the crack in the front of the sight. The rear part is missing entirely.
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It just looks to me like the hump is gone, There is not much hump on the 14 sights but yours
looks extra low. Anyway, I don't think that is your only problem. Your grip is probably your
biggest factor, tell me you ain't using that old 70's saucer and tea cup grip ? You know the old
Barney Miller police grip that lets your wrist snap up ?
You need a good modern two handed locking grip and you need to get the web of your hand
high on the back of that grip.
Do you have any other revolvers and do they shoot well ?
If you have shooting experience and you are sure it is not your technique then you can have
that front sight replaced with what ever height you want, you already said it was broken so
replacing it is a given. You can do it or send the shroud in to EWK and Eric will install for you.
But what your describing is quite a few inches and I would say some of it may be attributed
to shooting form.
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Blacktop said
It just looks to me like the hump is gone, There is not much hump on the 14 sights but yourslooks extra low. Anyway, I don't think that is your only problem. Your grip is probably your
biggest factor, tell me you ain't using that old 70's saucer and tea cup grip ? You know the old
Barney Miller police grip that lets your wrist snap up ?
You need a good modern two handed locking grip and you need to get the web of your hand
high on the back of that grip.
Do you have any other revolvers and do they shoot well ?
If you have shooting experience and you are sure it is not your technique then you can have
that front sight replaced with what ever height you want, you already said it was broken so
replacing it is a given. You can do it or send the shroud in to EWK and Eric will install for you.
But what your describing is quite a few inches and I would say some of it may be attributed
to shooting form.
-Blacktop
I use the standard two-hand thumbs-forward IPSC grip as I have for the past 20+ years and never had a problem with, so I strongly doubt technique is the issue. I have several other revolvers including a Smith 64 which I was shooting with exactly the same ammo on the same day at the same range and it was hitting right to the point of aim, so it isn't the ammo or my form.
Don't take my word for it, though:
This is the group I got in that video:
That wasn't just blazing away as fast as I could pull the trigger. I was reacquiring the front sight between each shot and aiming every time.
So, short form, yes, I know how to shoot, and no, it ain't how I hold the gun.
The info that EWK might mount the sight for me, however, is very useful, so thanks for that! 
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February 22, 2009
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So I've followed this thread for a while and went to look at your origianl post " My First DW" to see the pictures of the front sight. I am wondering - is your front sight serrated or smooth? All front sights, I've run across, were serrated. That may be an indication as to wether a PO filed it down for longer range shooting.
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rwsem said
So I've followed this thread for a while and went to look at your origianl post " My First DW" to see the pictures of the front sight. I am wondering - is your front sight serrated or smooth? All front sights, I've run across, were serrated. That may be an indication as to wether a PO filed it down for longer range shooting.Regards, Ron
Thanks for following, and yes, it is serrated all the way. No evidence of filing.
Here are the best pictures I could get:
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December 4, 2011
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That blade looks very short to me and compared to my 14-2 sight. I have a 6"BA somewhere around here I'll try to post a pic of it. It has much more of a rise in the front. I think that blade may be the problem. As short as it is, you'd be holding muzzel high to get it in the notch and that would make your shots way high.
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March 25, 2013
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Reb, someone messed with the sight, maybe filed the tang and reinserted it. That would explain why it is so low and is/looks broken. Ron may be right, jury rigged for long distance. I would send it to Eric and get it fixed right. May do that with my 14-2
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Other than being broken, it looks right to me but maybe the hump is filed. My model 8 for comparison is below. I'd think maybe barrel issues? What does the crown look like? Is the forcing cone buggered? Does it appear to be threaded straight? I'll go take a measurement... looks to be 4mm above the rib.
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