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May 12, 2012
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Hi guys!
I own a DW 715 pack from 1991.
The production i think was not the best of this year(s).
I have a chance to get a 15-2 pack 2",4",6",8" in case (auction price?)
Monson 83873 /1976?
What do you guys mean about the better prod. years on the 15-2 ....end of 70's,
.....middle 80's?
Or is it sh.t !!
Wesson dies 1986 and the later prod. wasn't the old prod. i often heard!
THX guys for every answer!
July 10, 2012
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Welcome to the forum!
Can't really help you on your question, but instead wanted to inquire about the grip on the gun you have linked. Is it yours? Or is that the one you are looking at? If it is your's would you mind sharing info about the grip? That's really cool lookin and never seen one like that.
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May 12, 2012
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HI!
No that is what i looking for.
My 715 are here:
February 11, 2010
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Your talking about the rumors of the late Monson and Palmer era. The talk was that
possibly quality control may have decreased. I have not personally seen this in any
Dan.
Does it happen, yep, every manufacture out there has had it's ups and downs, they
ALL have had their lemons, non are immune, even the best !
Now if you want to listen to some Smith or Colt or whatever fan boys spewing crap
on the internet that maybe never touched a Dan much less owned one or if they
did it was worked over by Bubba wanna B gunsmith before they got it....well that's
your choice, but most of the guys here will tell you their later Dan's are just as
good if not better than the earlier ones.
-Blacktop
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December 4, 2011
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+1 on what Blacktop said. All my Palmers are every bit as quality and accurate as my Monson and Norwich guns. In fact, the bluing on the Palmers may be superior to the Monson guns. Examine every gun carefully and decide if its been abused or well cared for before you buy.
Good luck!
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August 28, 2009
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+1 on both Blacktop's and Scorpio's comments. Some of the best bluing we have seen has come out of the Palmer plant. And as Blacktop stated, I've had quite a few Palmer gun come through that are every bit as good or better than some of the earlier production. My personal favorite is actually Norwich production which I think most will agreee as well, but as Scorpio stated each gun should be judged on its own merits alone.
May 12, 2012
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Thanks guys - i feel me better by my 715 Palmer!
Good comments - Thanks!
My school-english isn't good but i will try to declare this lack on my 715 DW,
Maybe you guys have an idea?
If i screw the shroud on barrel and fix it, than the shroud isn't even straight vertical!
This little "steel pivot" on frame that will stick in the shroud isn't on the right place, maybe for 1mm (0.0040inch). This little thing sould be a bit more on the right side on frame than the shroud are well placed and the front sight are vertical too.
I llooked it often times I'm not untalented in mechanics but until this time i had not the right idea
how can i handle that mistake without destroying something!
THX - DW fans
Robert
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December 4, 2011
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Can you post a pic of the frame with the shroud removed so we can see what you are dealing with? Sounds like the alignment roll pin is not in the proper spot or is missing or broken. A pic would greatly help us figure it out. Also show us the mating surface of the shroud where it meets the frame.
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May 12, 2012
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Hi Scorpio and THX!
Few pictures from my 715 DW
on pict.3 ...the top of the pin should be nearly there (red crosshair) - than the shroud will be vertically.
Hope that helps?
if i try the gauge 0.06" between the cylinder and the barrel on right side and change it to the left side i can't insert there - so the cylinder should be not really straight too.
...but maybe there's more DW's on planet with that option?
Hope you guys understand me "school-english"
THX
Robert
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November 17, 2008
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Nice looking 715. The issue with the alignment pin is odd as I would have thought it wouldn't have made it out of the factory with a out of aligned shroud. Everything looks OK from here, but since you have a full pac it will be simple to tell which is off. If all shrouds are out of alignment the frame is drilled wrong, but if only one shroud is off then its just that one. As for the cylinder they are sometimes not perfectly flat on the face so check the gap on all 6 positions and there should be no problem.
LB
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May 12, 2012
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lbruce said
Nice looking 715. The issue with the alignment pin is odd as I would have thought it wouldn't have made it out of the factory with a out of aligned shroud. Everything looks OK from here, but since you have a full pac it will be simple to tell which is off. If all shrouds are out of alignment the frame is drilled wrong, but if only one shroud is off then its just that one. As for the cylinder they are sometimes not perfectly flat on the face so check the gap on all 6 positions and there should be no problem.LB
HI lbruce!
So i checked it out again and all shrouds are off!
As i shoot the first time with the 715, i must turn the rear sight too much right to come into the middle of the target!
After a closely check i saw the shroud are off.
So, the thing is i have a chance to get another set of an 715, and i could change this "stupid stuff" on my DW - here in Austria/Europe only the "insiders of guns" known about DW and the good quality - so if i have a chance to buy an set of DW too, than it is "cheap"
The States are the opposite about pricing DW!
It's for sure the only "DW" guns you could buy cheaper as in the States !!
THX
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November 17, 2008
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If all shrouds are off then the issue is with the frame. If you are lucky maybe the roll pin is bent slightly causing the issue and that should be an easy fix. If the frame is drilled wrong then it will be difficult to correct, for sure a gunsmith/machinist job. If it were mine I would explore the roll pin idea as it should cost less than a cup of coffee to replace. I am usually not that lucky but it's worth a shot. Good luck.
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May 12, 2012
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HI,
no, the roll pin is straight! That was the first thought by myself ,...i bend this thing,...but it is straight. So one chance: i buy a 715 again and change this stuff or i cut this pin out and glue this pin on the DW new in the right place with the 2component glue.
I own a watchmaker milling - no problem to make this little pin
THX
Robert
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December 4, 2011
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If the roll pin is off center in the frame, could you weld the hole closed and then redrill the frame so that the alignment is correct?
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December 4, 2011
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Also, could you post a pic showing the shroud mounted on the frame so we can see the misalignment?
Anything worth doing is worth doing well.
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If a man designed it, and a man built it, then a man can fix it.
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March 25, 2008
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there might be a option of having an ofset dowel pin made to account for the missalignment then mounting it in trlation to the offset. just one more option.
May 12, 2012
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SCORPIO said
If the roll pin is off center in the frame, could you weld the hole closed and then redrill the frame so that the alignment is correct?
Yes, it's worth a try, but the right hole is very near by the old (1mm) i think an option is to drag a bit bigger hole to the right direction and glue it with "iron"glue.
THX
May 12, 2012
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SCORPIO said
Also, could you post a pic showing the shroud mounted on the frame so we can see the misalignment?
Sorry, yesterday i tried few photos but you can't see the misalignment on this pics!
THX
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