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May 16, 2014 - 10:08 am
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Is the upper surface of 15-2 shrouds parkerized?

I ask because the four-inch barrel I just acquired has some abrasions on this surface.

As I have done to abrasions on my 1990s 870 Police, I rubbed in some grease and the abrasions have, like the ones on my 870, become less obvious, but, as the shroud's bluing is "as new", I'd be glad to know if re-parkerization is an option. 

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I'm not sure what the finish is, but it is definitely a matte black not blued. I'm thinking some kind of paint personally as I've never seen a really good black parked finish.

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On blued shrouds the top strap is a beadblasted before the whole shroud is blued. So the sight surface is non glare and not shiny. 

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Thanks.  Were I to get anal, could new beadblasting be done without damaging the perfect bluing...

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wrdwrght said
Thanks.  Were I to get anal, could new beadblasting be done without damaging the perfect bluing...

Most likely not.

Bead blasting is pretty abrasive and would eat up the original blue and leave the part with the finish you desire, but also in the white, requiring it to be re-blued afterwards.

I have a small blasting cabinet, and I use it to clean up and prep many painted surface. I sometimes use it to touch up the top of a stainless barrel assembly. I don't see how you could re-blast a blued barrel shroud with out stripping off the existing bluing sadly.

 

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Bullwolf said

wrdwrght said
Thanks.  Were I to get anal, could new beadblasting be done without damaging the perfect bluing...

Most likely not.

Bead blasting is pretty abrasive and would eat up the original blue and leave the part with the finish you desire, but also in the white, requiring it to be re-blued afterwards.

I have a small blasting cabinet, and I use it to clean up and prep many painted surface. I sometimes use it to touch up the top of a stainless barrel assembly. I don't see how you could re-blast a blued barrel shroud with out stripping off the existing bluing sadly.

 

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Thanks for confirming my worry, Bullwolf.  I'll live with the blemishes to keep the magical original bluing.  That said, untreated stainless steel, as on my 686-4, and Flitz do make for a less worrisome combination.

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It would be no problem to blast the top rib, then reblue the shroud with out changing the shiny/polished finished surfaces on the shroud... of course, assuming proper practice is followed with the proper hot bluing setup. With cold bluing to refinish it, would be a recipe for disaster....

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Depending on the nature & size of the damage could you cold blue to touch up?

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mister callan said
Depending on the nature & size of the damage could you cold blue to touch up?

You are suggesting cold blue on the beadblasted surface?

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EWK_Stuff said
It would be no problem to blast the top rib, then reblue the shroud with out changing the shiny/polished finished surfaces on the shroud... of course, assuming proper practice is followed with the proper hot bluing setup. With cold bluing to refinish it, would be a recipe for disaster....

Does EWK Arms do such work?

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wrdwrght said

Does EWK Arms do such work?

I would contact Eric at EWK, and ask. Eric reblued a barrel shroud for me and it is a beautiful job. 

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wrdwrght said

mister callan said
Depending on the nature & size of the damage could you cold blue to touch up?

You are suggesting cold blue on the beadblasted surface?

Sure, why not?

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mister callan said

wrdwrght said

mister callan said
Depending on the nature & size of the damage could you cold blue to touch up?

You are suggesting cold blue on the beadblasted surface?

Sure, why not?

Does cold bluing (I've not used it) restore the beadblast effect? 

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It won't re-pattern the surface. If the damage is beyond the removal of color I don't think it'll do what you want, restore the whole effect.

I don't see any reason why it won't restore the color to the remaining surface as long as it is used properly though. That might minimize the appearance somewhat.

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mister callan said
It won't re-pattern the surface. If the damage is beyond the removal of color I don't think it'll do what you want, restore the whole effect.

I don't see any reason why it won't restore the color to the remaining surface as long as it is used properly though. That might minimize the appearance somewhat.

I guess I really have nothing to lose by trying.  Most of the color remains.  If I botch it, I can always get it reblasted, then hot blued, perhaps by EWK Arms.

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wrdwrght said

mister callan said
It won't re-pattern the surface. If the damage is beyond the removal of color I don't think it'll do what you want, restore the whole effect.

I don't see any reason why it won't restore the color to the remaining surface as long as it is used properly though. That might minimize the appearance somewhat.

I guess I really have nothing to lose by trying.  Most of the color remains.  If I botch it, I can always get it reblasted, then hot blued, perhaps by EWK Arms.

Well, I didn't botch it.  I used Brownell's Formula 44/40 Instant Gun Blue and now I can barely detect the damage that irritated me.  Thanks Mister Callan for the advice.

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