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December 9, 2023 - 1:17 pm
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I picked up two DW 32 H&R revolvers, one stainless and one blue, the blue has an extra 6” shroud no barrel
they were part of a package deal with other DW guns
anyway, appreciate some idea on value….cant find much on them
both in excellent condition
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December 9, 2023 - 3:35 pm
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The surest way to find out value is to put them on Gunbroker starting at a penny. 

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Perhaps I am just looking at the pics wrong, but are you sure the guns themselves are .32 magnum? The cylinders appear to me to be 22 cal? And the serial number on the blued one would be too low, before .32 magnums came out. The barrel shrouds would be easily interchangeable and don’t necessarily reflect the frame caliber. Maybe I’m just looking at them wrong. 

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I agree with Lonwolf93, those look like 22 frames wearing 32 H&R shrouds.  They aren't even period correct for the frames.  

We need to see pics of the muzzle and of the firing pin to be sure.  

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I am remiss for not looking closely. Yup, shorter 22 cylinders, the SA means stainless 22 caliber. Maybe the other Dan Wessons in the package deal are 32?

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After market CZ barrels on wrong guns! Wow  I hope you can return them. You can buy correct barrels at CZ and sell the 32 H&R ones. Luckily you did not try to shoot them. I guess you would have known once you tried to put a 32 shell into the cylinder. I hope you did not buy these from the guy in Scottsdale, AZ He has been buying guns, taking off the regular barrels and then replacing them with CZ barrels and still selling them for very high prices. He has this 41 mag for sale for $1900 and the barrel is a VH that has been cut off. I have never seen anything like that. Looks like they either used a grinder or a torch to cut the lug off why? Then the 32 is an after market barrel on an original gun. Screenshot-2023-12-10-12.33.30-AM.pngImage Enlarger

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great comments…..again, i purchased these as a package not really wanting 32 mag
i talked to the seller, he told me he had 22 cal cylinders converted to 32 H&R
not sure how a 22 frame would work on center fire cartridge…so strange
there was a 22 cal cylinder and barrel in the package ….now the pictures clear up

based on your comments i think i will sell the cylinders barrels & shrouds

thanks to all for the help
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It is possible that there are .22LR barrels inside those 32 shrouds. I believe you can put a .22 barrel inside any small frame shroud but will let the experts weigh in. The cylinders have to be .22 there shorter. all other small frame cylinders would take up all the room in the frame I think. There is one other cylinder that would look short I think a 22 magnum but i'm not sure about that. If they were 22 mag cylinders that would be a score!

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Stmstan 445 said
I believe you can put a .22 barrel inside any small frame shroud but will let the experts weigh in.

All small frame shrouds will fit a small frame with correct barrel tube installed.

A .32 barrel tube has different screw pitch than a .22, so will not fit the .22 frame.

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This is so interesting still trying to figure out what I ended up with the 32 caliber barrels thread into the 22 cal frame I did confirm the frame is 22 caliber

I put calipers on the 32 barrel they're definitely 32 caliber so this is confusing I have no idea but you're saying that the 32 caliber barrel should not thread into a 22 frame it definitely does not thread into any of my 357 frames

what do you think I have

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Let me get this straight, you have 22 frames and cylinders but 32 barrel tubes that will thread into the 22 frame?

I'm going to have to see if they share the same thread.  If they don't, then somebody rethreaded either the frame or barrel end.  

Maybe somebody was trying to convert a 22 in a 32 but didn't think about the rimfire firing pin.  

To make that conversion work, you'd need a new firing pin and a 32 cylinder and ejector start, at the very least.  Then the gun would need to be timed. 

This seems like someone's Frankenstein project they lost interest in.

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Scorpio…i think you nailed it
talked to the seller again and quizzed him about the 32 barrels threading into the 22 frames
he said he was trying to convert 22 cylinders and barrels to 32 but got held up because of firing pin
his memory not so good, he said he would check his paper work on who did the work
just got his email, 22 cylinders converted by Andy Horvath gunsmith, barrels converted by Alan Siegrist barrel boring

so now just trying to confirm if DW oem barrels thread into 22 or 357 frame, if they thread into 357 then i have a couple throwaway barrels
the shrouds and cylinders will work

i basically got these items free, i purchased a nice pistol pac from him, he asked if i wanted all this stuff he would throw it in.
one way to downsize.

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I just finished checking one of my 32's.  A 22 barrel will just slide through the frame of the 32.

So you have modified 22 barrel tubes that now accept 32 cal, correct?

Were the cylinders reamed to 32 as well?  

Was the frame rethreaded or is it still the stock 22 diameter and thread? This is going to determine your options.  I believe 32 and 357 used different thread pitches.  You may be best off just finishing the 32 conversion or just parting out the two guns and disposing of the modified frames.  The parts will fetch a nice price, especially side plates, hammers, connectors etc.  

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Scorpio thanks for checking
i have 32 cal barrels that can screw into 22 cal frames …so the question… is that normal?
Did 357, 32 & 22 barrels all have different threads?

i have two converted 22 cal cylinders now 32 cal…I think these are fine

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22,32,and 357 all have different threads. The barrel tubes won't work anywhere. The shrouds are good on any small frame gun but not much demand except for a 32 where the buyer has a barrel. The cylinder may be able to be used on a 32 mag frame if the barrel can reach the cylinder but a shroud may be too long.

 Probably what Scorpio said. Parts. And find a 22 cylinder and BA to convert back to a 22. Or a 22mag.

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My question is, why? Why try yo do this with perfectly good guns. They look like they were in good condition. He was trying to convert a 22 to a 32 correct? The frames are 22. Weird thing to waste a lot of money on. Those were nice 22,s if he wanted a 32 could gave traded them for a nice 32. Frankensteining a gun never seems to work out or it becomes a money pit! Like the movie with Tom Hanks!

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the 22 frames look brand new…so strange and he basically gave them to me.

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