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January 22, 2008
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January 22, 2008
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January 22, 2008
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Top picture is of the 460 Supermag brass,
Bottom picture is of 375 Supermag and the 460 Supermag.
Dave
January 22, 2008
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Is the 460 Supermag custom or was that offered by Dan Wesson. I don't see it in the blue book anywhere?
Jody
January 22, 2008
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It was a prototype gun made 1998 by Bob Serva with DJ Bushman being the designer and gun tester at that time with DW. I own the only one made, Serial number "460SM EXP 1" It was made before the S&W's 460, the story I got from DJ Bushman was that the S&W 460 was designed to compete with the DW 460.
Dave
January 22, 2008
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Here is the only mention of it in print on the internet.
http://www.lasc.us/RangingShot13-3.htm
Dave
January 22, 2008
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For those that have not seen what I have posted elsewhere here it is again. This information was given to me by DJ Bushman.
The 460 Supermag is a 45 win mag case stretched to 1.610 (supermag length). It can produce velocites that duplicate the new 460 S&W. The 460 S&W was produced to compete with the Dan Wesson but the 460 SM never made it into production because Dan Wesson did not have the money to fully put it into production. Boy they made a big mistake there.
During testing at the factory they shot experimental 200gr bullets at 2400 ft/sec with pressure at around 50,200 PSI. and they felt the round should operate at 50,000 with the proof loads at 70,000PSI.
Dave
April 25, 2008
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.45 Win Mag case? I thought it was the .444 Marlin case. I also understood Elgin Gates' original name was the .455 SuperMag. I believe there was a .510 SuperMag in the works too.
If I'm mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last.
January 22, 2008
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Well you are mistaken. LOL It is a lengthened 45winmag case. It uses moonclips I can and have shot 45acp 45winmag and 460 Supermag out of the gun.
Dave
April 25, 2008
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Not surprising. I got away from handguns for a while and have only been back into it for about a year. Sounds like a helluva revolver. Good shooting.
May 4, 2008
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Either way, I looked too and can easily believe thats the only one and it's a real nice gun and a hell of an idea.
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January 24, 2009
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Ok guys. I had to bump this old post, because this is a cool gun that DW only made one prototype example of. I have been surfing around the big 'ol WWW tonight & have found some more pics posted by 460smdave. Dave, even though you haven't popped in here in many moons, I hope you don't mind me sharing some of your pics.
And a big congrats on scoring this cool gun!
445 SM on top, 460 SM on bottom.
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Prototype serial number.
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That's all I've been able to find so far, but I tell ya, I'm drooling over here!
Although...I recalled seeing something about this in the "Models" tab at the top of this screen...hmmm. Wait a minute, this pic that Jody grabeed from DW's old site shows a different looking 460.
Did they make two of these prototypes, or could that just a 4" shroud engraved with 460 stuff, slipped onto maybe a 44 frame or something??
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Dans Club
March 2, 2008
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That one is a .460 Rowland, different cartridge, I think. Originally developed as a high power cartridge for 1911 style autoloader
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January 24, 2009
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Ah yes, I believe you're absolutely right. Sorry, it was getting late last night & my wee brain wasn't thinking beyond point "a" any longer.
I'm also noticing today that the Rowland gun's frame & cylinder look a bit shorter too, more like a 44. I'd like to find the story on that one some day.
November 23, 2008
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Good morning
Is there enough “MATERIAL” on a 44 SM cylinder to ream it out and have a barrel made ?
Mike in Peru
January 22, 2008
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Sorry yes I have been gone for awhile, The cylinder size is identicle for the 445 and 460 supermag, so yes there is enouph meat.
I do not own the 460 anymore I have passed it on to a very good Dan Wesson owner.
Dave
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February 9, 2009
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Glad to see you back 460smdave, been awhile. Hopefully you can let the new owner of the 460 know about our forum and they can share info about it.
SMF
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January 22, 2008
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January 24, 2009
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460smdave said:
I do not own the 460 anymore I have passed it on to a very good Dan Wesson owner.
Dave
That's ok, for 'tis better to have owned & lost than to not have owned at all. LOL
Welcome back!
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November 17, 2008
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Great to have you back Dave. Must have been hard letting go of a one of a kind.
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