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safestosmall
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October 31, 2014 - 9:01 pm
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I held one today and pondered buying it... It was short 2-3" fixed, decent shape, would clean up easily, whats it worth? 

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Stainless  a  couple on GB seem to roll over.  Now  I don't find them!  blue  350 to ?    SS a little more maybe!   Just where I am anyway!   

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October 31, 2014 - 9:35 pm
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Hard to say a value on it. Not a high dollar gun like a rare Supermag etc but a 714FB is a rare one nonetheless. I would easily pay $400 for one and I am a cheapskate.

"The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the Wolf does not perform in the circus"

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Hmmm!  Fixed barrel, fixed sights. Sounds like a sounds like a Smith &Wesson ,Taurus or a Ruger. Worth about the same . Just can't make myself buy a fixed barrel dan.  JMHO.

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Why wouldnt you buy a fixed barrel... I was looking because I dont have one, yet.

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My fascination with Dans started because of the changable barrels. I have quite a few now but every time I have an opportunity to purchase a fixed barrel gun I ask myself why should I buy a gun without the unique feature. The cylinder gape can not be adjusted and you would have to live with whatever it was. I also like to be able to remove the barrel for ease of cleaning.I understand that they are very accurate but there are models left I would rather have.

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Ole Dog said
My fascination with Dans started because of the changable barrels. I have quite a few now but every time I have an opportunity to purchase a fixed barrel gun I ask myself why should I buy a gun without the unique feature. The cylinder gape can not be adjusted and you would have to live with whatever it was. I also like to be able to remove the barrel for ease of cleaning.I understand that they are very accurate but there are models left I would rather have.

For the longest time I agreed with this, when (many years back) we had the first post on DWF about fixed barrel guns, I was surprised to learn of such a thing. My shooting preferences have changed over the years, and I only own and shoot 4" these days.

I still don't want a fixed barrel DW, but they do have the DW action, easy grip interchange, etc.

BTW-LGS has a "New" CZ 715, $900. 

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The Fixed Barrel DW is all the same of regular DW except it has a fixed barrel.  I still even has tension at both ends of the barrel like a interchangeable model.  We came out with the fixed barrel models for a few reasons. One reason was anytime we entered a bid for say a govt. dept. they didn't like the fact their people can take a barrel off.  That's why even Dan had fixed barrels way back in the beginning if you look at the old advertisements.  He did it with a "one way" barrel nut.  We also did this for patent reasons.  Last was there was a demand for this type over seas.  Some people were just way too overwhelmed that they could take their guns apart and changes barrel lengths.  I hope this helps.

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safestosmall said
Why wouldnt you buy a fixed barrel... I was looking because I dont have one, yet.

One of the interesting things about the FB guns is that they tended to have odd length barrels (e.g 3" or 5")

My fixed barrel .44 Mag has a 5" barrel for example.

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A little off topic, but regarding the tensioned barrel, some S&W Performance Center revolvers have a similar set up, but you cannot buy barrels, shrouds, etc.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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I went by the pawn shop this morning and made an offer she couldn't refuse on this palmer fixed barrel so I bought it. I think I also made a deal autumn model 15 heavy vent pistol pac this morning

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safestosmall said
I went by the pawn shop this morning and made an offer she couldn't refuse on this palmer fixed barrel so I bought it. 

You are on fire right now, have fun buying in to a solid, user friendly revolver platform

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Watching prices going up over the past few years, I think they are a solid investment. Colts and smiths are going up but IMHO none are as cool as a Dan

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Here she is after a little clean up... She has an occasional sticky trigger, if you bump it or move the cyl the trigger resets. After a quick look it appears to be on the same cyl every time. Thinking maybe the hands gerring stuck on the star.

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How is the action?  I have a Palmer fixed barrel and cocking the hammer in single action is tight.  Double action is no better.  I've opened it and cleaned the innards.   Nothing seemed out of the ordinary.   My 15-2's have been smoothed out quite a bit from the average Joe thread.

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I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

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Did a little Average Joe tonight on the desk with my big India stone. The inside of the side cover was bare cast, not a mark on it and rough! I cleaned up the inside of the frame some with a small India I had and all the parts went on the big stone, polshed up the outside some more and put her back together with a little break free lube. It sure is a ton smooother, I'm sure that side cover had a lot to do with that. 

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Eric said
The Fixed Barrel DW is all the same of regular DW except it has a fixed barrel.  I still even has tension at both ends of the barrel like a interchangeable model.  We came out with the fixed barrel models for a few reasons. One reason was anytime we entered a bid for say a govt. dept. they didn't like the fact their people can take a barrel off.  That's why even Dan had fixed barrels way back in the beginning if you look at the old advertisements.  He did it with a "one way" barrel nut.  We also did this for patent reasons.  Last was there was a demand for this type over seas.  Some people were just way too overwhelmed that they could take their guns apart and changes barrel lengths.  I hope this helps.

Best regards

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I, for one LOVE stuff (info) like this!laugh Sometimes it seems that facts like this come along so rarely that I often wonder if we will ever have the answers revealed...and then someone comes along who feeds my soul, truly.smile Thank you, Eric.

And so, to accompany Eric's post, here is a photo of one of the "way back" FB (fixed barrel) guns...this is my model D11. Yes, I apologize for the buggered lower portion of the photo, it's an old leftover "war wound" thanks to my photo host site.mad

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The business end...

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Of course, the D11 FB eventually morphed into the more common (and aesthetically pleasing) FB guns offered to us during the Palmer years.big-grin Here are my 3" FB twins, Pete & Repeat!

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Repeat (the stainless one) got to go to the range last Father's day...Pete is totally jealous!big-grin Repeat...

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BTW, for anyone wondering...yes, where FB's were concerned, you COULD have your cake & eat it too. FB's were available in whichever barrel length you desired. Normally, I would present photo evidence of this, but my web photo site lost this for me a while back.frown So for now, just take my word for it!lol2

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Almost every FB I have personally seen was either a 3" or 5".  I ordered this one right after Palmer closed down.  It was the only one by LGS could get at the time.

Proportions are just right.

5" M44FB.  

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Now if only we could find some info on those FB Titans!    Thanks Eric for the insight into all of the unknown!   

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