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BlindFaith429
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Just recently purchased a 715-FB, and wanted to change out the grips. I purchased a set of Pachmayr Presentation grips online (DW-L version).

 

The question I have is about the grip screw. Will the screw that is in the gun now, holding on the Hogue grip, work with the Pachmayr grip?

 

I can buy factory grip screws from Numrich for $7.55 a-piece, but don't know if I should order it or not.

 

If anybody can help, that would be awesome.

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I believe you can get the correct screw at a hardware store. I don't know the thread but a match up should be easy. If i'm wrong someone will chime in.

 

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I just measured the thread, and it looks to be either an 8-32 or an 8-36. My money is on the 8-32.

 

I will give it a shot, and if need be, I'll just go to the hardware store and get a different screw. I was afraid it was a proprietary thread and would need a special screw (hate it when companies do that).

 

Either way, I will post my findings here in case anybody else has the same question.

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The screw is an 8/32 standard length is 1 1/2 inches and 1 1/4 inches for the small service grip. Either way be sure the screw you use is not to long as it will interfere with the hammer spring. Usually somewhere between 6 to 10 revolutions is where I like mine to snug up.  The screw thread pitch is standard. The DW screw head design is proprietary so you wont find an exact match at the hardware store. I use phillips pan head screws and have never had a problem. Also 30 cents vs. around $10.00 from DW once you add the shipping. Good luck and welcometo the dwf-sign.

 

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LB is the resident grip expert, so he gave you great info. I have both Hogue Monogrips and Pachmayr Presentation grips and use the same screw for either. Like LB said just make sure you dont have more than about 6 threads turned in or the screw may interfere with hammer spring travel.

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That DW-L may be for the Large Frame DW (.44 Mag). Normally Large Frame hole for the tang is round, small frame is square.

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If you want to stay with an Allen screw, I've found that the hardware store variety take an Allen wrench one size smaller that needed for the OEM items.

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From the info I've been able to put together, I think Pachmayr made 3 different Presentation models. The DW-L and DW-S were both small frame, square tang models. One was larger than the other, for larger hands, hence L and S. I would assume the S would be better for carry or smaller hands.

From what I've found, the large framed ones were labeled as DW-44 or something similar to that, and those were for the round tang, large frame guns.

I will let you guys know when the grips come in if my theory is right. It seems like the DW-L's are the most commonly availile right now for the presentation grips. Haven't seen a -S or even a gripper version yet.

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Yes, from what I see, Pachmayr did make 2 sizes of Presentation grip for small frames (square tang) they were DW-S and DW-L. I have both I like the small better because I have short fingers but there is not a lot of difference between the 2. DW-44 is for large frame pistols. Grippers are finger groove style for small frame, they show up on Ebay once in a while but always bring a high price. But personally I like them better than the Hogue Monogrip.

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lonwolf93 said:

Yes, from what I see, Pachmayr did make 2 sizes of Presentation grip for small frames (square tang) they were DW-S and DW-L. I have both I like the small better because I have short fingers but there is not a lot of difference between the 2. DW-44 is for large frame pistols. Grippers are finger groove style for small frame, they show up on Ebay once in a while but always bring a high price. But personally I like them better than the Hogue Monogrip.

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Any interest in selling / trading one of the DW-S's? I have a NIB DW-L on it's way right now.

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SOunds like you got it handled!  The FB is a some what rare one though they are showing up more and more!   Below is a Gripper on a custom Dan!

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Dave_Ks said:

SOunds like you got it handled!  The FB is a some what rare one though they are showing up more and more!   Below is a Gripper on a custom Dan!

Nice looking revolver.

Unfortunately, I am not a fan of grooves on grips. My fingers never match LOL. I always liked the feel and look of the Presentation grips, so I went with those.

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Got the grip and got it on the gun. I was going to use the factory screw, however I couldn't get the washer off. It was like the put the washer on, then roll-threaded the screw, so the washer hole isn't big enough to slide over the threads yell

Went to Home Depot, and got a Philips head screw like you guys suggested, and it works great. I got the same length screw (1 1/2" long) and it worked great. I got about 8 to 8 1/2 threads into the tang. Thread was 8-32 like you guys said too.

Before putting the grip on, I put the screw into the tang with the hammer cocked, and counted how many threads deep it was before any interference. It was about 11 1/2. I function checked it with the grip on and screw in, and no problems.

Grip feels SOOO much nicer than the Hogue and I am happy I bought the grip. Got it off eBay for 28 bucks shipped laugh

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BlindFaith429 said:

Before putting the grip on, I put the screw into the tang with the hammer cocked, and counted how many threads deep it was before any interference. It was about 11 1/2. I function checked it with the grip on and screw in, and no problems.

This is the really smart way to do this! Remember that the length of the tang in the grip is what really creates the connection of grip to frame. The grip screw is really just there to keep the grip from slipping off or moving.

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